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    Default Describing China

    China has always claimed to be communist since Mao Zhe Dong or whatever, but I just realized that their economy is a free market...

    How do we quantify their government?

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    You need to work towards making your posts seem less like homework assignment prompts.

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    Wtf? This isn't my homework. The only time I'll ever ask for help on here is with MUN. My poor old heart seriously can't handle all the criticism.

    On the serious note, I really don't understand what China is trying to achieve by calling itself "communism". I was reading my AP Macro textbook and i had an epiphany.

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    They also call themselves the People's Republic of China. I wouldn't claim they are entirely free market either.
    . . .

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    True, Democratic People's Republic of Korea...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Mage View Post
    How do we quantify their government?
    Tape measures?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nessus View Post
    Tape measures?
    We could also measure it by taking a known volume of water, submerging their entire government in it, and then measuring the volume change...
    . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illusions View Post
    We could also measure it by taking a known volume of water, submerging their entire government in it, and then measuring the volume change...
    This idea sounds remarkably useful.

    If they float, they are witches?
    We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Mage View Post
    How do we quantify their government?
    Single-party totalitarian state.
    "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."

    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

    -- Thomas Jefferson: American Founding Father, clairvoyant and seditious traitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenCain View Post
    Single-party totalitarian state.
    So how does that convert to SI units?
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

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    Subtract 32, and multiply the result by 5/9, IIRC.
    "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."

    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

    -- Thomas Jefferson: American Founding Father, clairvoyant and seditious traitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nessus View Post
    Tape measures?
    We can't use the America government since we're on the conservative side of a spectrum when compared to any other developed nation. So Germany or England? Maybe France?

    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenCain View Post
    Single-party totalitarian state.
    Now we're getting somewhere. Can you be a little more specific as to why you'd use those nouns and adjectives to describe the Chinese government?

    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenCain View Post
    Subtract 32, and multiply the result by 5/9, IIRC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Mage View Post
    How do we quantify their government?
    Quote Originally Posted by Young Mage View Post
    Now we're getting somewhere. Can you be a little more specific as to why you'd use those nouns and adjectives to describe the Chinese government?
    You're pulling that "do my work for me" posting style again. Lets try to bring you into the fold on how to hold actual discussions and debates:

    1) You have an idea/question/brain fart
    2a) You make a post, containing multiple paragraphs of you spewing your nonsense
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    2b) You quote and link a news article, with your own 2 cents thrown in
    3) Community then decides to point out why you're an idiot, thus answering your question by ripping apart the attempt you at least already made.

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    The Chinese government does not see itself as dabbling in capitalism. Their vision is instead more like that of a corporation. There is a direction they are moving in, and one single path which will be guided by the decisions of those most worthy to serve.

    It's an interesting idea. They let westernere build the factories, and now they're using extreme social and economical measures to gain control of that infrastructure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Mage View Post
    Now we're getting somewhere. Can you be a little more specific as to why you'd use those nouns and adjectives to describe the Chinese government?
    The definitions of the words, primarily. It's totalitarian... and the only legal party is the C.C.P. So, a totalitarian state with one legal political party is more concisely described as a totalitarian, one party state.
    "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."

    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

    -- Thomas Jefferson: American Founding Father, clairvoyant and seditious traitor.

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    Changed thread/homework title from "Ching-Chong Dynasty".

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    China has a communist right wing system.
    China is less interventionist than US.
    China does not provide bailouts with taxpayer's money to reward failure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnaught View Post
    Changed thread/homework title from "Ching-Chong Dynasty".
    Still made me giggle...

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    Now say it in Chris Tucker's voice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenCain View Post
    The definitions of the words, primarily. It's totalitarian... and the only legal party is the C.C.P. So, a totalitarian state with one legal political party is more concisely described as a totalitarian, one party state.
    They can't have more than one party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnaught View Post
    Changed thread/homework title from "Ching-Chong Dynasty".
    Why?

    Quote Originally Posted by ar81 View Post
    China has a communist right wing system.
    China is less interventionist than US.
    China does not provide bailouts with taxpayer's money to reward failure.
    Why do we reward failure?

    Quote Originally Posted by Veldan Rath View Post
    Still made me giggle...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ar81 View Post
    China has a communist right wing system.
    China is less interventionist than US.
    China does not provide bailouts with taxpayer's money to reward failure.
    Actually, China's bailout dwarfed America's (per capita), despite average income in the US being at least a dozen times higher.
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    I thought China was loosing jobs though? Didn't we stop outsourcing to them?

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    Believe it or not, China has a large enough domestic market that its economy isn't dependent entirely on American factories.
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    The media lied to me.

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    Maybe you should try to get your information from people who actually have more knowledge than yourself (i.e. not the mainstream media).
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    Here's an idea, give me a solution instead of just critiquing me.

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    At a minimum, you can read the foreign affairs sections of the New York Times, Washington Post, or BBC. Assuming you want to be more knowledgeable than journalists who've spent at most a few months on a given topic, you can turn to the Economist, Foreign Policy, Wall Street Journal (on financial matters), and Foreign Affairs, or major newspapers of whichever country you care about (though that requires those countries to have a reasonably free press).
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    I've been reading the Wall Street Journal on almost a daily basis. I skim it, I don't have a lot of time to spare with AP exams and finals. I actually allocate my time and manage it efficiently believe it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    At a minimum, you can read the foreign affairs sections of the New York Times, Washington Post, or BBC. Assuming you want to be more knowledgeable than journalists who've spent at most a few months on a given topic, you can turn to the Economist, Foreign Policy, Wall Street Journal (on financial matters), and Foreign Affairs, or major newspapers of whichever country you care about (though that requires those countries to have a reasonably free press).
    Are you implying Xinhua is not a reliable source?

    Quote Originally Posted by Young Mage View Post
    Here's an idea, give me a solution instead of just critiquing me.
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