Poetry

[Aimless]

On a lovely spring day,
on a sunny sunday,
on a day without to-dos,
having had sufficient rest,
I take a walk, and come
across a fork in the path,
whereupon I happily go right--
and think, I should have gone left.
This is the sum of my problems!

tWF open stage. Write, or relay, whatever you feel like

[Young Mage]

Are haikus considered poetry?

[Aimless]

yes they are

[Young Mage]

The World Forgotten
Is composed of middle aged men
and 4chan is too

LOL

[Dreadnaught]

Last night my friends came
And we drank three liters of
old champagne I had

[Young Mage]

Dreadnaught you are wrong
First and dos should be the same
this should be different

[littlelolligagged]

The World Forgotten
Is composed of middle aged men
and 4chan is too

LOL

5/7/5

If you're going to go around correcting others, fix your own first.

Thank you.

Party for my boy
His birthday is on Tuesday
Cake is quite ugly

---

The frosting tastes great
But the decoration stinks
Oh well he is pleased

[Young Mage]

That is 5-7-5.

The World For Got ten (5)
Is com posed of middle aged men (7)
and 4chan is too (5)

well I probably fail hard at english since it's my fourth language. Which word did I get wrong?

[littlelolligagged]

is com posed of mid dle aged men (8)

Also, Dread is correct.

[Dattu]

That is 5-7-5.

The World For Got ten (5)
Is com posed of middle aged men (7)
and 4chan is too (5)

well I probably fail hard at english since it's my fourth language. Which word did I get wrong?

Is. com. posed. of. mid. dle. aged. men.

[Steely Glint]

Spoiler:

5-7-5 is just one convention one way of translating haikus to English, as Japanese doesn't have syllables in the same way as English.

[littlelolligagged]

Spoiler:

5-7-5 is just one convention one way of translating haikus to English, as Japanese doesn't have syllables in the same way as English.

Spoiler:

I have never seen any other way of composing haikus in English. I do understand that it is different in Japanese. I'm reasonably sure this is in English, though.

[Steely Glint]

Spoiler:

HAIKU

Definition: A haiku is a short poem that uses imagistic language to convey the essence of an experience of nature or the season intuitively linked to the human condition.

Notes: Most haiku in English consist of three unrhymed lines of seventeen or fewer syllables, with the middle line longest, though today's poets use a variety of line lengths and arrangements. In Japanese a typical haiku has seventeen "sounds" (on) arranged five, seven, and five. (Some translators of Japanese poetry have noted that about twelve syllables in English approximates the duration of seventeen Japanese on.) Traditional Japanese haiku include a "season word" (kigo), a word or phrase that helps identify the season of the experience recorded in the poem, and a "cutting word" (kireji), a sort of spoken punctuation that marks a pause or gives emphasis to one part of the poem. In English, season words are sometimes omitted, but the original focus on experience captured in clear images continues. The most common technique is juxtaposing two images or ideas (Japanese rensô). Punctuation, space, a line-break, or a grammatical break may substitute for a cutting word. Most haiku have no titles, and metaphors and similes are commonly avoided. (Haiku do sometimes have brief prefatory notes, usually specifying the setting or similar facts; metaphors and similes in the simple sense of these terms do sometimes occur, but not frequently. A discussion of what might be called "deep metaphor" or symbolism in haiku is beyond the range of a definition. Various kinds of "pseudohaiku" have also arisen in recent years; see the Notes to "senryu", below, for a brief discussion.)

[littlelolligagged]

Spoiler:

HAIKU

Definition: A haiku is a short poem that uses imagistic language to convey the essence of an experience of nature or the season intuitively linked to the human condition.

Notes: Most haiku in English consist of three unrhymed lines of seventeen or fewer syllables, with the middle line longest, though today's poets use a variety of line lengths and arrangements. In Japanese a typical haiku has seventeen "sounds" (on) arranged five, seven, and five. (Some translators of Japanese poetry have noted that about twelve syllables in English approximates the duration of seventeen Japanese on.) Traditional Japanese haiku include a "season word" (kigo), a word or phrase that helps identify the season of the experience recorded in the poem, and a "cutting word" (kireji), a sort of spoken punctuation that marks a pause or gives emphasis to one part of the poem. In English, season words are sometimes omitted, but the original focus on experience captured in clear images continues. The most common technique is juxtaposing two images or ideas (Japanese rensô). Punctuation, space, a line-break, or a grammatical break may substitute for a cutting word. Most haiku have no titles, and metaphors and similes are commonly avoided. (Haiku do sometimes have brief prefatory notes, usually specifying the setting or similar facts; metaphors and similes in the simple sense of these terms do sometimes occur, but not frequently. A discussion of what might be called "deep metaphor" or symbolism in haiku is beyond the range of a definition. Various kinds of "pseudohaiku" have also arisen in recent years; see the Notes to "senryu", below, for a brief discussion.)

Spoiler:

Young Mage still had 18 syllables, so even if 5-7-5 is not required, 18 > 17 or fewer.

[Steely Glint]

Spoiler:

Notes: Most haiku in English consist of three unrhymed lines of seventeen or fewer syllables, with the middle line longest, though today's poets use a variety of line lengths and arrangements.

Notes: Most haiku in English consist of three unrhymed lines of seventeen or fewer syllables

Most

[littlelolligagged]

Spoiler:

Do you really think this jackass deserves poetic license? To be fair, when we learned to write haiku in school many years ago we were told that 5-7-5 was the only acceptable way to do it - and this is also what the kids have been taught in elementary school. I'd be willing to believe the wikipedia article you are quoting, and that a decent poet should be able to work within the "rules," but I still think there's a common acceptance of the conventions that are used in English-language haikus - so for the purpose of trash haiku on this forum that should be the accepted format - and everything I see from a quick google search saying that 17 is too wordy in English, and a constant repetition of "less is more").

[Steely Glint]

Spoiler:

The quote comes from the haiku society of America. I'm not really sure that what is taught in elementary school should be a rule of thumb, for well, anything. Also, none of these have anything to do with seasons. So there's that.

SENRYU

Definition: A senryu is a poem, structurally similar to haiku, that highlights the foibles of human nature, usually in a humorous or satiric way.

Notes: A senryu may or may not contain a season word or a grammatical break. Some Japanese senryu seem more like aphorisms, and some modern senryu in both Japanese and English avoid humor, becoming more like serious short poems in haiku form. There are also "borderline haiku/senryu", which may seem like one or the other, depending on how the reader interprets them.

Many so-called "haiku" in English are really senryu. Others, such as "Spam-ku" and "headline haiku", seem like recent additions to an old Japanese category, zappai, miscellaneous amusements in doggerel verse (usually written in 5-7-5) with little or no literary value. Some call the products of these recent fads "pseudohaiku" to make clear that they are not haiku at all. See "haiku."

[littlelolligagged]

Spoiler:

The quote comes from the haiku society of America. I'm not really sure that what is taught in elementary school should be a rule of thumb, for well, anything. Also, none of these have anything to do with seasons. So there's that.

Spoiler:

That's kind of why I referred to all of them as "trash haiku"...

But, for the record, they still had us writing haiku as far as the "advanced" world lit class my senior year in high school by a 5-7-5 format. The translated ones we read were not, don't think we actually read any written in English by anyone who wasn't a student. Meanwhile, though, I don't actually care - I just had an objection to him correcting Dread.

[Steely Glint]

Spoiler:

Well, yes, telling someone off for not using the 5-7-5 format whilst not using it yourself is clearly retarded

[Young Mage]

Spoiler:

SURPRISE!

I am so sorry
I fucked up very badly
refrigerator

Spoiler:

And Dread was actually wrong, the first two should be similar and the third one is random or different. It shouldn't be a continuation of the previous sentence. The third one is more or less a "food for though".

[Khendraja'aro]

Spoilers everywhere
Makes everything look so strange
Burma shave

[Young Mage]

Khendraja'aro
tiger are very scary
i pissed my sweat pants.

[NGS]

You're doing it wrong
Haikus are about nature
Flower tree river

[Young Mage]

The sun is pretty
beautiful rainbows are made
when it is raining

people are tanning
the ice caps are all melting
we will all die soon

[Cracky]

Damn all this discussion in spoiler tags
About haikus and saylables it's mad
Though poetry itself is rather rad
To post in this short thread makes me quite glad

[termite]

There once was a man from Nantucket,
Whose dick was so long he could suck it,
He said with a grin,
As he wiped off his chin,
If my ear was a cunt I would fuck it.

There once was a plumber from Lee,
Who was plumbing his girl by the sea,
She said Stop your plumbing,
There's somebody coming!
Said the plumber still plumbing... It's me!

There once was a koala named Jeeves,
Liked to service young hookers tween their knees,
When they'd asked him for money,
He'd say "Listen honey,
A koala just eats, roots and leaves."

There once was a lady from Reno,
That lost all her money on Keno,
She laid on her back,
and opened her crack
And now she owns the casino!

[EyeKhan]

Rancid bacon fouls the lou
Wash it down with Moundain Dew
Boil a pot of hippie stew
Oh dear, someone stuffed a corpse
In the blackened chimney flu!

[Young Mage]

We love arguing
Cain and Tear are gay lovers
flame war is afoot

[Timbuk2]

Beyond watching eyes
With secret and tender kisses
Our souls reached out to each other
In breathless wonder

And when I awoke
From vast and smiling peace
I found you bathed in morning light
quietly studying
All the messages in my mobile phone

- Banksy

[littlelolligagged]

If Jesus had AIDS
He'd have hung from the mast
Of a pirate ship
Skull*cross*bones*flesh

All diseased and forsaken
Savior of woman
Savior of man
Outcast just the same
Strung up and flying like
A flag a-blowing in the wind
Flesh and bones
Skull and cross

Disciples wearing rubber gloves
Judas preaching republicanism
Mother Mary awaiting test results of flesh and bone
skull and

Cross the red sea to Hades
His duty to save me
Degradation and an untimely demise
All diseased and forsaken
Son of god
Skull and cross
Bones and flesh
If Jesus had AIDS

- Michelle Malone