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Thread: Police don't kill criminal... still generates protests.

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    Default Police don't kill criminal... still generates protests.

    http://archives.sfexaminer.com/sanfr...nt?oid=2201504

    "Family and supporters of Kenneth Harding Jr. disrupted Muni service at Church and Duboce streets during the morning commute Monday, highlighting what they called the police brutality and racism that led to his 2011 death."

    Ah OK let's take a look at this story. Maybe the police shot this guy for no reason. Maybe he was some innocent kid who did nothing wrong and the cops just targeted because he was black.

    "Harding’s family and friends said they chose to target Muni because they believe the transit system is partially at fault for his death. They organized the shutdown as a way to persuade transit officials to alter the Clipper card system, claiming the only reason Harding didn’t buy a ticket that day was because he didn’t know how to do so. His family said that if he had known how to purchase a pass, police would not have used that as an excuse to stop him."

    OK say they did have a reason to stop him. But did they have to kill him? Surely not paying for a ticket shouldn't be held against him. After all I'm sure he was 'a good boy.'

    "At the time of his death, Harding was wanted in Seattle in connection with the homicide of a pregnant woman and also was on parole for pimping a 14-year-old girl."

    OK fine he was a bad guy. But it isn't the police's job to be the executioner of criminals. We have laws they can't just shoot people! (Even if they deserve it).

    "The circumstances of Harding’s death have been debated, but police have said he accidentally fatally shot himself in the neck after tripping while fleeing from cops.

    Harding, who was visiting The City from Seattle in July 2011, was stopped by police at Third Street and Palou Avenue in the Bayview district for allegedly failing to pay his Muni fare.

    Police say the bullet in Harding’s neck came from a .38-caliber handgun, which SFPD officers do not carry. Police also said gunshot residue was discovered on Harding’s hand and a .38-caliber bullet was in his pocket."

    Wait... the police didn't even shoot him! WTF is wrong with people? San Francisco, what a liberal cesspool. Where a man can shoot himself and the police still get blamed. /boggle.

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    Yeah if you'd read up on the case you'd have known that there are a number of issues with the killing and by the subsequent investigation of it by the scandal-wracked SFPD. So it's not particularly surprising if the man's mother doesn't believe justice has been done. It's funny how can simultaneously distrust doctors and blindly trust an organisation that has repeatedly been shown to be criminally corrupt
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    Yeah if you'd read up on the case you'd have known that there are a number of issues with the killing and by the subsequent investigation of it by the scandal-wracked SFPD. So it's not particularly surprising if the man's mother doesn't believe justice has been done. It's funny how can simultaneously distrust doctors and blindly trust an organisation that has repeatedly been shown to be criminally corrupt
    He was on parole for PIMPING A MINOR. He ran. He shot himself. Not feeling any sort of sympathy here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    He was on parole for PIMPING A MINOR. He ran. He shot himself. Not feeling any sort of sympathy here.
    I don't really care about whether or not you feel any sympathy. I'm saying you don't have the whole picture and your ignorance makes this thread more embarrassing to you than to "libruls". He was on parole for pimping a minor, yes, but that is irrelevant because it's not something the police knew about. He was later suspected of having something to do with a murder somewhere else, but that was never confirmed, nor was any particularly strong evidence presented. It was also irrelevant because the police did not know this. He ran, but, as we've already established, running from the police is not something that should be punishable by death in a civilised society. He was said to have shot himself, but this was not conclusively proven. All we know is that the report shows he was not shot by a standard issue police firearm.

    Now, this is one of those cases where it's entirely possible the victim was killed due to his own actions (specifically shooting at police, although this has not been conclusively confirmed either). However, the case was not investigated properly, which is why it's reasonable for the mother to believe justice was not done. In other words, you're basically just embarrassing yourself... as usual.
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

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    And, just to be clear, he was himself a minor at the time he was convicted, and the reason he was out on parole rather than still being in prison may have had something to do with that as well as evidence that the person he had tried to pimp had misled him about her age and solicited his help with these activities. None of that is relevant to the shooting of course.
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

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    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

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    He was shot by his own. It wasn't the police officer's gun it was his gun. The bullet didn't have the same caliber as a police officer's gun. Sorry but there is absolutely nothing to protest here. Except maybe the mom for being such a tard.

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