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    NBC reporting that the wave of bomb threats targeted Dem-leaning counties in battleground states:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/securit...ing-rcna179006
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    There's this guy who was claiming the 2020 elections were rigged. You remind me of him.
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    Decision Desk HQ has called the AZ senate race for Gallego, but AP considers it too early to call.

    Casey appears to have lost his seat, but the margin is small enough that it may trigger a recount. Tens of thousands of provisional Pennsylvania ballots remain uncounted, waiting to be "cured", which is a normal thing in a normal democracy. McCormick & co. have ofc sued to obstruct this process, and, while the PA Supreme Court seems opposed to such shenanigans, the matter will likely be settled by SCOTUS.
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    It's pretty rare to see large-scale changes during recounts. Also, the military voted 2 to 1 for Trump and their ballots make up a decent chunk of the ones not counted so far.

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    Can we agree that Donald J. Trump won this one surprisingly easy?
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    The way that Macron, Rutte, Sunak, etc. lost easily? I wonder what the common denominator was. Must be the wokeness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    The way that Macron, Rutte, Sunak, etc. lost easily? I wonder what the common denominator was. Must be the wokeness.
    Can you refrain from stupid-posting? From the three you mentioned only Sunak is working in a system that has similarities to the US system. And his party made such a joke of the notion of government that nothing could have saved him. Especially not with his interparty impopularity. In France Macron's bet seems to have paid off despite extremist on the left and right thinking they won. In The Netherlands Rutte pulled the plug himself for no good reason, but since he didn't stand in the elections it's a bit strange to say he lost. He already wanted out. His successor made a miscalculation by suggesting a vote for Wilders might not be lost after all. But what's more important than anything; in the parliamentarian systems of Europe we don't have 'winner takes all' results. Winner just means you have more votes than others.

    P.S. Rutte's party is still in government.
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    About a dozen Western countries had elections in the past 1.5 years. Only in one did the incumbent do well. Most of the incumbents were center-right. But yes, wokeness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    About a dozen Western countries had elections in the past 1.5 years. Only in one did the incumbent do well. Most of the incumbents were center-right. But yes, wokeness.
    OK genius, what do you think you are proving here? That you're a whiney bitch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    About a dozen Western countries had elections in the past 1.5 years. Only in one did the incumbent do well. Most of the incumbents were center-right. But yes, wokeness.
    Do you have any comparable data on local/regional elections? Would be an interesting paper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    I am going to make a prediction here. Just because I can. I think the people who don't want Trump back haven't what it gets to keep the Orange thing out of the White House.

    1. Biden is unappealing, Harris is a dud.
    2. Radical left identity politics keep putting off more and more voters off
    3. The case against Trump is going to give Trump more publicity than money can buy. And unlike what liberals think, it's not gonna put a lot of people off voting for him.

    So, that's some of the reasons why I think America will vote a man into the White House a man who should be in prison for his attempt to interfere with the electoral process by inciting people to attack the Capitol.
    Well, you called it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnaught View Post
    Well, you called it!
    Kinda shocking though that Democrats couldn't win these elections. As a EU citizen of course I can't be happy with a Trump presidency and am prejudiced, but this president-elect seems like A Frankenstein monster of parts that all by themselves already should have made him unelectable.
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    Did you miss the part where virtually no Western incumbent won an election in the past 18 months? And most lost by far larger margins than Harris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Did you miss the part where virtually no Western incumbent won an election in the past 18 months? And most lost by far larger margins than Harris.
    Did you miss the part where the US electorate elected a felon, traitor and overall horrible person to the presidency?

    I hope you will understand I'm not overly interested in comparisons with countries that didn't elect that sort of leader.
    Congratulations America

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    Kinda shocking though that Democrats couldn't win these elections. As a EU citizen of course I can't be happy with a Trump presidency and am prejudiced, but this president-elect seems like A Frankenstein monster of parts that all by themselves already should have made him unelectable.
    I'm disappointed in America (I think you need a new signature) but not entirely surprised or shocked.

    Post-Covid, post-Ukraine invasion, since the surge in inflation, every western election bar one that I know of has been lost by the incumbent.

    Voters have punished the incumbents across the globe. America is the norm in that not the exception.

    Only the repulsiveness of Trump and the bitter divisions in America kept it remotely close I suspect, otherwise it would have been a 1996 (in reverse) style landslide if not a 1984 style one.
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    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    Did you miss the part where the US electorate elected a felon, traitor and overall horrible person to the presidency?

    I hope you will understand I'm not overly interested in comparisons with countries that didn't elect that sort of leader.
    Have a look at who got 2/3 of the vote in the French elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Have a look at who got 2/3 of the vote in the French elections.
    How is it relevant?
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    People turn to anti-establishment assholes when times are bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    People turn to anti-establishment assholes when times are bad.
    Great analysis, not much of a solution though.
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    There isn't one that exists within the constraints of a democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    There isn't one that exists within the constraints of a democracy.
    Oh, now you suddenly sound like Lewk. Why do you think Liberals should become anti-democratic? Are we reverting back to Aristotle all of a sudden?
    Congratulations America

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    No, we're just screwed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    No, we're just screwed.
    Your system of government should be able to stop an autocrat in his tracks. There's a division of powers both vertically and horizontally. All it takes is for the parts of the system to stop acting as if the plurality of the American nation is lost. Maybe give some thought to what they think they have lost when they talk about wanting their country back. Is it really true if Liberals deny that claim? Isn't it so that the administration consists of a billionaire in the pockets of two (or more) bigger billionaires. I understand that Biden addressed the issue recently, and much too late. The events on and around Tiktok is telling; millions of Americans are scrutinising the voting of their senators and representatives. In the eyes of those voters their representatives are disclosing themselves as for the people or for the oligarchs. At the next election people will remember who took away their platform, their voice and often their lively hood.

    Millions of them are exposing themselves on xiaohunsho to a world they had no concept of. An experience that could rapidly put an end to American exceptionalism.

    Trump seems to be very aware of what goes on in the underbelly of American society by inviting the CEO of Tiktok to his inauguration.
    Congratulations America

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    The problem is that the judiciary is being stacked with people disinterested in the rule of law, Congressmen are too scared of Trump to stand up to him, and state-level politicians are jumping over each other to be seen as most loyal Trump. Social media distracts people at best and turns them to the far right at worst. The media itself is scared to challenge Trump. So who's going to protect American democracy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    The problem is that the judiciary is being stacked with people disinterested in the rule of law, Congressmen are too scared of Trump to stand up to him, and state-level politicians are jumping over each other to be seen as most loyal Trump. Social media distracts people at best and turns them to the far right at worst. The media itself is scared to challenge Trump. So who's going to protect American democracy?
    You. Or nobody.
    Congratulations America

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    No one's going to listen until Trump royally messes up the economy. Any argument until then falls on deaf ears. Trump's approval has actually increased since the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    No one's going to listen until Trump royally messes up the economy. Any argument until then falls on deaf ears. Trump's approval has actually increased since the election.
    You realise that's on you? You are almost the definition of the kind of person who should organise resistance against the oligarchs.
    Congratulations America

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    This inauguration feels more unhinged than the previous Trump inauguration.
    Congratulations America

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    Is it woke to oppose Nazi salutes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    Your system of government should be able to stop an autocrat in his tracks. There's a division of powers both vertically and horizontally. All it takes is for the parts of the system to stop acting as if the plurality of the American nation is lost.
    You're not wrong. I remain utterly perplexed by how the GOP just cowered since Jan 2020

    The events on and around Tiktok is telling; millions of Americans are scrutinising the voting of their senators and representatives. In the eyes of those voters their representatives are disclosing themselves as for the people or for the oligarchs. At the next election people will remember who took away their platform, their voice and often their lively hood.
    That's not something I would count on. Political memory is short and this was timed to give them damn near the maximum time and insulation possible to let the memory and anger fade
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