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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    I like the political compass version of left and right for economics, libertarianism v authoritarianism for social issues. And yes, libertarianism is a very hard liberal form of right.
    Even that doesn't make sense because you can have social libertarians who are fiscally to the left - see anarcho-communists.

  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Libertarians are pretty hard right. Not far right.
    So hard right is the same thing as far right. If you google it, 'far right' comes up. In fact, 'hard right' isn't really a thing.

    The reason I would not call libertarians hard right is not because that's the wrong place to put them on some abstract political spectrum, but because the term 'far right' has certain connotations that, whatever their flaws, simply do not apply to libertarians, so using the word conveys the wrong impression. Do libertarians sit around thinking about how they can best exterminate race enemies? No. So I'm not going to call them far right, because that's what someone will think I mean if I use that phrase to describe them.

    Terms like "far right", "hard left" etc have value in that they are useful short hand in that they tell you something about what someone's politics are, but trying to put them into some abstract symmetrical framework is a mugs game, people's political views are far too complex to be put into a framework like that, or at least two complex to go into one with just two axis.
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  3. #33
    Libertarianism is just the goth approach to various other mainstream ideologies.
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  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Enoch the Red View Post
    Even that doesn't make sense because you can have social libertarians who are fiscally to the left - see anarcho-communists.
    I would not call anarcho-communists libertarians because communism is very illiberal economically.
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  5. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    I would not call anarcho-communists libertarians because communism is very illiberal economically.
    I appreciate that. I also hope you appreciate that Randblade does not hold a sole monopoly on the English language and how it is used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    Libertarianism is just the goth approach to various other mainstream ideologies.
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