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  1. #721
    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    Really, this is all Biden's fault.
    Of course it is.

    If he hadn't had the temerity to win an election then the Trumpites wouldn't have needed to storm the Capitol.
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    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  2. #722
    So I told Wiggin (in this thread? Or the Proud Boys thread?) that people believe things like the claims of fraud because they put themselves in echo chambers and just don't allow themselves to hear any material that conflicts with what they wan to be the case. That. . . doesn't explain them thinking Biden is responsible for what happened Tuesday. I have no explanation for that kind of response.
    Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"

  3. #723
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy View Post
    So I told Wiggin (in this thread? Or the Proud Boys thread?) that people believe things like the claims of fraud because they put themselves in echo chambers and just don't allow themselves to hear any material that conflicts with what they wan to be the case. That. . . doesn't explain them thinking Biden is responsible for what happened Tuesday. I have no explanation for that kind of response.
    Look what you made me do. I'm not a loser; everything bad that happens to me is someone—everyone—else's fault.
    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
    — Bill Gates

  4. #724
    The future of American conservatism:

    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
    — Bill Gates

  5. #725
    Isn't Cindy McCain a conservative?
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  6. #726
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    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5...on-riot-antifa

    A bit late to start caring about the truth, but hey, better late than never.
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  7. #727
    Increasingly clear (and not surprising) that a number of lawmakers were involved in the attack on the Capitol, at both federal and state levels. All should be kicked out, and all should be investigated.

    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
    — Bill Gates

  8. #728
    American conservatives vs. Democrat (and democracy, as it were):

    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
    — Bill Gates

  9. #729
    Revenge is a dish best served cold. Trump's antics probably cost the GOP both GA Senate seats and Mitch the Majority Leadership. Now it seems he's happy to wield the knife and see Trump impeached.

    Even if its post-inauguration of Biden it would be good to see Trump impeached and convicted for the records.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  10. #730
    Revenge is a dish best served cold. Trump's antics probably cost the GOP both GA Senate seats and Mitch the Majority Leadership. Now it seems he's happy to wield the knife and see Trump impeached.

    Even if its post-inauguration of Biden it would be good to see Trump impeached and convicted for the records.

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01...25th-amendment
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  11. #731
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy View Post
    So I told Wiggin (in this thread? Or the Proud Boys thread?) that people believe things like the claims of fraud because they put themselves in echo chambers and just don't allow themselves to hear any material that conflicts with what they wan to be the case. That. . . doesn't explain them thinking Biden is responsible for what happened Tuesday. I have no explanation for that kind of response.
    It starts with preference falsification. They have to take the more extreme pro-Trump position or they'll get kicked out of their social group. When enough people do it, everyone else assumes the rest really do belief the Big Lie. And who are you not to believe what all of your social circle takes for granted?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    The future of American conservatism:
    The part about John McCain's military service. Wow. Even for the GOP.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  12. #732
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    I missed that part, what did he do wrong during his military service? Or is that about Trump liking people who don't get caught?

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't McCain quite popular in his home state, and are Republicans shooting themselves in the foot yet again here?
    Keep on keepin' the beat alive!

  13. #733
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy View Post
    So I told Wiggin (in this thread? Or the Proud Boys thread?) that people believe things like the claims of fraud because they put themselves in echo chambers and just don't allow themselves to hear any material that conflicts with what they wan to be the case. That. . . doesn't explain them thinking Biden is responsible for what happened Tuesday. I have no explanation for that kind of response.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sartre
    Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
    You've been waiting for the truth to come find you
    Are you speaking for yourself or your pain? Do you sleep in the silence to wane the passing shame?
    You are more than what your history made you, let the ghosts of our fathers pass on.
    There's a new dawn to come when the past mistakes are gone

  14. #734
    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
    — Bill Gates

  15. #735
    Happy Birthday you blithering idiot.
    I could have had class. I could have been a contender.
    I could have been somebody. Instead of a bum
    Which is what I am

    I aim at the stars
    But sometimes I hit London

  16. #736
    So I mentioned how my store sold the products of that MyPillow guy who tried to coach Trump on how he should conduct a/the coup? It was announced today that we're discontinuing the line. We'll try to sell the current stock but we won't be selling them forward. Good riddance to those overpriced pieces of crap.
    Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"

  17. #737
    It's both ironic AND pathetic that "Freee Marketeers" are doing what the GOP won't -- by removing its Krazy Kracken funding/donors. I can't wait to see if that trickles down to Fox & Friends, and the My Pillow guy as one of their major sponsors.

    I hope everyone who's bought a My Pillow product returns it (to the manufacturer) for a full refund.

  18. #738
    They can return 'em but they won't get any refunds. They promise they'll refund you if there's something wrong but they created a ridiculously strict set of "care" instructions and if you can't prove you've followed them (and there is no way to do so) than any issues with the product are your fault for not properly caring for it and consequently you are not due any kind of refund. Now of course us retailers will refund you for the product, because we want your repeat business. Since the MyPillow empire is built on essentially engaging in affinity fraud to sell an inferior product, they don't care about repeat business. They're happy getting the single over-priced sale.
    Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"

  19. #739
    If you're working for a retailer that gives full refunds for crappy products (like My Pillow)....something is wrong with that business model? I hope they don't go broke (and you don't lose your job) while grifters and fraudsters like Lindell makes millions, then turn that profit into political lobbying power for tyrants like Trump.

    How about anyone who's got a My Pillow product just return it to any Lindell operation, no refund required, but Lindell will have to pay the costs of re-use and/or disposal? If the only principle that matters is making money, then hit 'em in the wallet.

  20. #740
    It's a good thing the empire exists so that the sad clowns at The Donald can waste their money on crappy products to own the libs
    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
    — Bill Gates

  21. #741
    Banana Republic or Failed State?

  22. #742
    https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/20/p...ban/index.html

    Washington (CNN)As his term comes to an end, President Donald Trump revoked a rule he signed early in his term that imposed a five-year lobbying ban for administration officials and a lifetime ban on lobbying for foreign governments.

    [...]

    Clinton had also nixed the five-year lobbying ban at the end of his tenure, which Trump had criticized during the 2016 campaign.
    "He rigged the system on his way out," Trump said of Clinton as he ran against his wife, Hillary Clinton.
    I could have had class. I could have been a contender.
    I could have been somebody. Instead of a bum
    Which is what I am

    I aim at the stars
    But sometimes I hit London

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    https://mobile.twitter.com/SenTedCru...40800646029312

    What an idiot.

    Edit: and apparently Pittsburgh decided to follow the Paris accord anyway, so this actually is what the people in Pittsburgh want.. Unlike Ted Cruz who tried to disregard the actual votes from them.
    Keep on keepin' the beat alive!

  24. #744
    Recommend seeing this clip so that you can fully appreciate just how big a shit-eating dumbass Rand Paul is next time you see Lewk desperately trying to use the moron to bolster his own standing:

    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
    — Bill Gates

  25. #745
    Can't find the Lincoln Project thread so here's

    How It's Going:

    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
    — Bill Gates

  26. #746
    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
    — Bill Gates

  27. #747
    Fascist, Communist, Marxist, Peronist, Jacobin, Francoist . . . its an idea that keeps returning.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1796113.html

    Strong words, now let's see if there will be actions.
    Keep on keepin' the beat alive!

  29. #749


    Better late than never realising that. There's a history in politics of parties getting taken over by the worst elements of them, its a bitter fight to get them back to decency then but its a fight that needs to happen.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  30. #750
    Let's see him saying that about a GOP senator.
    Hope is the denial of reality

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