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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    No, that guy should be off the bench.

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    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

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    Allahu Akhbar. Sounds like he believes in a good traditional Islamic Saudi Arabian version of women's rights.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Allahu Akhbar. Sounds like he believes in a good traditional Islamic Saudi Arabian version of women's rights.
    I actually don't think it does. Until the dumbass (and yeah he's a dumbass) actually proposes legislation to the effect of not being able to drive if your a woman, not be able to get a job if your a woman, etc he's just saying how he would like things and the comparison to KSA is not appropriate. For example I think the Kardashians are pretty stupid and don't really want to see them on TV or hear about them on the radio, but I would never propose a law against it.

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    If a candidate seeking election says that's his version of rights then yes I would be suspicious of any legislation he might get involved in once elected.

    "Yes he believes that but it won't affect his role as a legislator" is hard to believe unless he's at least said so himself which he hasn't.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  6. #6
    Just because he won't enact that specific legislation (because he couldn't) doesn't mean his shitty attitude won't inform how he does his job in other areas.
    When the sky above us fell
    We descended into hell
    Into kingdom come

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    Yeah, that attitude towards women spells problems for pretty much anything he touches.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

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    The present and indefinite future of American conservatism?

    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

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    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  10. #10
    some very fine people among the new conservatives:

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...e-of-the-union
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

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    I'd ask if the GOP can get any lower, but we all know the answer to that.
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I'd ask if the GOP can get any lower, but we all know the answer to that.
    They can--once the Muslim infiltration is complete.

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5...b05253b2752e90
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  13. #13
    But Gorsuch.
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    as long as they claim to be christian. they hardly have to act like it.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

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    Clinton's mentor who disavowed the KKK and spent much of his life publicly expressing his regret for his affiliation with that organization?

    Okay, sure. Meanwhile, you have white supremacists in a "Republican" cabinet, and a Republican rep. defending a Holocaust denier. But sure.
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

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    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/hou...s-adam-schiff/

    This is so fucking dumb I can't even laugh.
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

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    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

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    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

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    Sick woman.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  20. #20
    This is the new American conservatism. VP-endorsed.
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

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    This isn't even the worst thing out of CPAC: http://observer.com/2018/02/michael-...ions-director/
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  22. #22
    CPAC is a joke. It's been called TPAC (defending Trumpism) for good reason.

    The "lock her up" chant was especially hypocritical

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    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  24. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    It is. I don't see it any worse than sin taxes on things like tobacco or subsidies for things like hybrid vehicles. The government shouldn't be deciding economic winners and losers and the government shouldn't be trying to curb or encourage behavior based on their moral view of things.

    Big government conservatives are just as bad as big government liberals. Sadly there are too few people who realize the cyclical nature of politics and that power corrupts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    It is. I don't see it any worse than sin taxes on things like tobacco or subsidies for things like hybrid vehicles. The government shouldn't be deciding economic winners and losers and the government shouldn't be trying to curb or encourage behavior based on their moral view of things.

    Big government conservatives are just as bad as big government liberals. Sadly there are too few people who realize the cyclical nature of politics and that power corrupts.
    Subsidies for things like hybrid vehicles [or less taxes on them] make sense. Pollution isn't morals it is a deadly, harmful negative externality which isn't dealt with fully by the free market. Pollution from petrol and diesel vehicle exhausts especially in big cities causes immense damage to non-users of those vehicles. By taxing polluting vehicles more than non-political vehicles the government is nudging the pollution away while letting the consumers in the market choose the winners and losers.

    Similarly for tobacco. Since the government spends a fortune on healthcare [your government spends a higher proportion of tax dollars on healthcare than ours does on our NHS!] it makes sense to capture some of that back by the heaviest users of healthcare. Tobacco and gambling taxes are voluntary taxes anyway, don't be a fucking moron and you can avoid all of those taxes. If we could fund our entire government with voluntary taxes we could easily avoid I'd be happy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Subsidies for things like hybrid vehicles [or less taxes on them] make sense. Pollution isn't morals it is a deadly, harmful negative externality which isn't dealt with fully by the free market. Pollution from petrol and diesel vehicle exhausts especially in big cities causes immense damage to non-users of those vehicles. By taxing polluting vehicles more than non-political vehicles the government is nudging the pollution away while letting the consumers in the market choose the winners and losers.

    Similarly for tobacco. Since the government spends a fortune on healthcare [your government spends a higher proportion of tax dollars on healthcare than ours does on our NHS!] it makes sense to capture some of that back by the heaviest users of healthcare. Tobacco and gambling taxes are voluntary taxes anyway, don't be a fucking moron and you can avoid all of those taxes. If we could fund our entire government with voluntary taxes we could easily avoid I'd be happy.
    I recall that tobacco users actually cost the government less money due to them dying off faster.

  27. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    It is. Empty verbiage from someone who does not, in fact, have any ability whatsoever to kill tax legislation.
    Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"

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    But words matter. Even "empty verbiage" from one GA legislator can go viral, and turn into moving Delta HQ to another state, taking some 30,000 jobs with it.

    Don't forget that many large multi-national corporations were enticed to states with big tax breaks in the first place (Lewk).

  29. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy View Post
    It is. Empty verbiage from someone who does not, in fact, have any ability whatsoever to kill tax legislation.
    He had some help:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/georg...ith-nra-2018-3
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  30. #30
    I meant legally, not ethically.
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

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