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  1. #1
    Ban for excessive hippie
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

  2. #2
    Flower Power > gunz...

    Faith is Hope (see Loki's sig for details)
    If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Being View Post
    Flower Power > gunz...

    Someone please put up that scene from the Watchmen.

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  5. #5
    HEAD SHOT!
    Faith is Hope (see Loki's sig for details)
    If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?

  6. #6
    1) The problem with your paper is the problem with this thread: the absence of a thesis sentence. For example: the word "hand" doesn't appear in this thread until post #8. FAIL.

    2) You are doing the same thing for your paper as for Model UN. Don't expect respect OR help.

  7. #7
    Icky.

    I still think it's a bad sign, though.
    We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.

  8. #8
    Maybe it's because I'm at a pretty good university, but there's only one person who writes as bad as that in my freshman classes, and that person has never lived in an English-speaking country until this year.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  9. #9
    I really would have thought the standards to get into an AP English class would be higher; or, failing that, at least by this point in the year someone in a composition class would be able to whip out a higher quality essay.
    We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.

  10. #10
    6 of 9 was generous. Maybe that's what you get for handing it in?

  11. #11
    I said this wasn't my entire essay didn't i? Those are just the paragraphs I liked and several of them actually mentioned the area I lived in so I took them out. And i think you guys fail to understand that I typed up the essay I wrote in class. It was an in class timed essay. I'm sorry if I don't muster up something amazing on my first try?

    But that's what I wrote word-for-word and you guys shouldn't judge to readily. I find it amazing how none of you know a 6/9 is a "very good score" on an AP Lang and Comp essay. Clearly, you guys need to look around the net and see how my peers write.

    And I'm not making mistakes, but i'm sorry I don't write as well as all of you. I'm not proficient enough in English to do so nor am I willing to spend days learning everything.

  12. #12
    And Tear, i thought uz gonna ignore me mawn. Wut happened?

  13. #13
    I got a 3 on the AP English exam (along with 5 As in English/literature classes in college). I'm cleaning up people's garbage now.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  14. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I got a 3 on the AP English exam (along with 5 As in English/literature classes in college). I'm cleaning up people's garbage now.
    My district doesn't even have AP classes. "We" use the CP / CPA system, without dual credits. It also doesn't count for testing out of college Intro classes. "We" end up having to enroll kids in local college courses during HS, but they don't get HS credit. yay

  15. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    My district doesn't even have AP classes. "We" use the CP / CPA system, without dual credits. It also doesn't count for testing out of college Intro classes. "We" end up having to enroll kids in local college courses during HS, but they don't get HS credit. yay
    I think having the kids go to a community college and get credits that way is better than pretending that AP classes come anywhere close to resembling the atmosphere of the university classroom or have anywhere near the same requirements. Instead of focusing on getting people to think, the AP examiners just try to make their tests as difficult as possible. Getting the A (i.e. 5) in an AP class doesn't mean you learned more or used your brain effectively; it just means you were able to memorize a sufficient amount of information and put it down on a piece of paper in a format the examiners prefer. In college, no one (outside the hard sciences I suppose) cares if you're able to memorize a countless amount of useless pieces of information. The purpose of a college class is to teach people who to connect different pieces of information and teach students how to think about that information. I've yet to see an AP class that did the same (I'm not even going to blame the teachers here; the classes themselves are stupid).

    Quote Originally Posted by Illusions View Post
    Ha! I got a 4 and I'm unemployed. I bet someone got a 5 but they're so homeless and destitute they can't tell us...
    Do what any good unemployed person does - go to grad school.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  16. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Do what any good unemployed person does - go to grad school.
    Did that already . I could go get another graduate degree but I really don't feel like adding more loans to my debt...that and all the art centered PhD's sound terribly boring...
    . . .

  17. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I got a 3 on the AP English exam (along with 5 As in English/literature classes in college). I'm cleaning up people's garbage now.
    Ha! I got a 4 and I'm unemployed. I bet someone got a 5 but they're so homeless and destitute they can't tell us...
    . . .

  18. #18
    How about getting a teaching certificate? Most schools need a technology teacher.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  19. #19
    Just liek with everything, Sturgeons law applies to AP classes. Some, in fact many, are just "MORE STUFF!" but a few are actually "smart".

  20. #20
    Um. My personal opinion is that you should stop badmouthing your teachers and your fellow students until you achieve excellence.
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  21. #21
    I never bad mouthed my teacher? I like my teacher.

    Think subjective.

  22. #22
    ^ Fail. Hard.

    "Each June, the free-response sections and Studio Art portfolios are scored by thousands of university faculty and Advanced Placement instructors at a number of Advanced Placement Readings in locations throughout the United States. These free-response sections are scored according to rubrics designed for the specific prompts. Before the readers arrive, a number of people from the Advanced Placement Program's Reading Leadership randomly select a number of free response booklets and match these booklets against the preliminary question rubrics designed by the test development committee when they wrote the question. If, based on the sampling, the students did not perform as well as expected, the scoring rubric is made easier. If, based on the sampling, the students did better than expected, the scoring rubric is made more difficult. In addition, the Reading Leadership attempts to find what they believe epitomizes the best example of a free response that should be scored at each score level (usually the free responses are scored on a scale of 0 to 9) for purposes of training the readers. It usually takes about one week for the readers to score all of the free response sections for one exam."
    http://www.susangrosstprs.com/articl...TINGRUBRIC.pdf (third page)

    You guys are honestly too old now to argue about what goes on in school since it does affect you anymore. Most of you guys are rather ignorant in that specific topic. Let's see, the papers are grades on a scale from 0-9 (9 being near damn impossible to achieve as a Junior) and we write three essays, after adding up the raw score from the three essays, we add the MC (multiple choice) score, we have a number. That number is then converted to either a 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5.

    Don't get your shit mixed up and look like a clown next time.

    EDIT: I should probably heed my own advice.

  23. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Young Mage View Post
    Don't get your shit mixed up and look like a clown next time.
    I'm not sure how our lack of knowledge about the current grading system for AP based essays makes the samples you gave us of your essay any better.

    Edit: Perhaps this was part of the problem with your essay, that you assume that if part of the argument is flawed that the argument as a whole must be flawed. For instance, if I present an argument, and to back it up offer data points A, B, and C, and B has an error in it, that does not invalidate A or C, and by extension the argument itself. A,B, and C may not have equal weight in the argument for instance. In this case, stating that your essay is bad because it got a 6. The fact that this piece of data is wrong does not invalidate the other points made; that the essay contained incorrect usages of English, and poorly chosen and defended arguments.
    . . .

  24. #24
    I see what you just did there! Good job changing the subject from your ignorance and fail to my essay. Pretty sneaky, too bad I called you out.

  25. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Young Mage View Post
    I see what you just did there! Good job changing the subject from your ignorance and fail to my essay. Pretty sneaky, too bad I called you out.
    Further edits were made. You'd be wise to drop the douche act, and perhaps listen to the advice we give you, or you're going to be in for a surprise when you get into college.
    . . .

  26. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Illusions View Post
    Further edits were made. You'd be wise to drop the douche act, and perhaps listen to the advice we give you, or you're going to be in for a surprise when you get into college.


    Don't attempt to serenade me with whatever you deem morally "righteous", you've irritated me enough in the past with condescending and douchebaggy posts.

    Furthermore, I find it rather amusing how Cain can say what I just said and "score points" on here; on the other hand, if I do it, oh noes! I'm an ungrateful-self-centered-spoiled-brat who needs a good ol' belt whippin' for not abiding by draconian rules imposed on him by "mature[rer]" and "smart[er]" peers/adults who might know better. Maybe you and the rest of the members don't give me enough credit.

  27. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Young Mage View Post
    Don't attempt to serenade me with whatever you deem morally "righteous", you've irritated me enough in the past with condescending and douchebaggy posts. I find it rather amusing how Cain can such what I just said and "score points". On the other hand, if I do it, oh noes! He's an ungrateful-self-centered-spoiled-brat. Maybe you and the rest of the members don't give me enough credit.
    Cain doesn't "score points." He annoys the fuck out of everyone, and knows it.

    Your writing was bad. You shared it. You don't appear to be looking for advice on how to write an effective essay, so you aren't going to get that from me. It wasn't just the grammar; I could overlook that to a degree for in-class writing.

    Calm down, kid.
    We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.

  28. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Young Mage View Post
    Don't attempt to serenade me with whatever you deem morally "righteous",
    Umm...actually that was supposed to be an idicator that there are very likely people who are smarter, more intelligent, more knowledgeable, and more naturally gifted than yourself who will be in the same year of college with you, and the whole "look how superior/awesome I am" isn't really going to jive well with your peers or professors...

    you've irritated me enough in the past with condescending and douchebaggy posts.
    Source? I don't remember any interaction with you until you posted that really self-absorbed bragfest in GC.

    Furthermore, I find it rather amusing how Cain can say what I just said and "score points" on here; on the other hand, if I do it, oh noes! I'm an ungrateful-self-centered-spoiled-brat who needs a good ol' belt whippin' for not abiding by draconian rules imposed on him by "mature[rer]" and "smart[er]" peers/adults who might know better. Maybe you and the rest of the members don't give me enough credit.
    Cain doesn't score points. Cain is an asshole. I don't think he'll argue any differently about being so. Its who he is. So either what you want to say is that you too are an asshole, and this kind of behavior is what we should come to expect from you, or that you're offended by us labeling you as such, because you don't want to be seen that way.
    . . .

  29. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Young Mage View Post
    Furthermore, I find it rather amusing how Cain can say what I just said and "score points" on here; on the other hand, if I do it, oh noes! I'm an ungrateful-self-centered-spoiled-brat who needs a good ol' belt whippin' for not abiding by draconian rules imposed on him by "mature[rer]" and "smart[er]" peers/adults who might know better. Maybe you and the rest of the members don't give me enough credit.
    It's a fact that you'll benefit greatly from learning to accept feedback. Being able to graciously accept feedback is a very valuable skill in life.











    Re. the question in the OP, I think we should strive for a future in which guns (with or without lasers ) aren't commonly used to hurt or to kill people. Haven't thought much further than that
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  30. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    It's a fact that you'll benefit greatly from learning to accept feedback. Being able to graciously accept feedback is a very valuable skill in life.
    I've found this to be very true; feedback has been a great way for me to improve upon myself at my job, and it has gotten me to a very good place in life. .

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