I should probably spell it 'defence' for this thread, though.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11570593

Quote Originally Posted by BBC
Defence review: Cameron unveils armed forces cuts

Harrier jump jets, the Navy's flagship HMS Ark Royal and planned Nimrod spy planes are to be axed and 42,000 MoD and armed forces jobs cut by 2015.

Unveiling the strategic defence review, PM David Cameron said defence spending would fall by 8% over four years.

The RAF and navy will lose 5,000 jobs each, the Army 7,000 and the Ministry of Defence 25,000 civilian staff.

Axing the Harrier and Ark Royal means no planes will be able to fly from British aircraft carriers until 2019.
Continue reading the main story

Mr Cameron opened his Commons' statement by denying the review was simply a "cost saving exercise", saying it was a "step change in the way we protect this country's security interests".

He said Britain would still meet Nato's target of spending 2% of GDP on defence and would continue to have the fourth largest military in the world and "punch above its weight in the world".

But he said the country had to be "more thoughtful, more strategic and more co-ordinated in the way we advance our interests and protect our national security".

There would be no cuts to support for troops in Afghanistan - which is funded separately from the Treasury's special reserve, the prime minister stressed in his statement.
Kinloss doubts

But he said he wanted the Ministry of Defence to become more commercially "hard headed" and said it would face "significant challenges" as a result of cuts.

He outlined savings of £4.7bn at the department - including a reduction in civilian staff by 25,000 by 2015. The department will also sell off "unnecessary assets", renegotiate contracts and cut overheads.

He confirmed HMS Ark Royal will be decommissioned four years early and the UK's Harrier jump jets will be axed. Two new aircraft carriers will be built but one would be placed on "extended readiness".

The decision to axe the replacement Nimrod MRA4 reconnaissance planes - a project Mr Cameron said had cost more than £3bn and was more than eight years late - puts the future of RAF Kinloss, which employs 1,500 people, in doubt. The future of nearby RAF Lossiemouth remains uncertain.

Mr Cameron acknowledged there would be changes but said some RAF bases were "likely to be required by the Army, as forces return from Germany".

A "large well-equipped" Army would remain - that would amount to 95,500 personnel by 2015 - 7,000 fewer than today, Mr Cameron said.

Tanks would be cut by 40% and heavy artillery 35% - but there would be 12 more Chinooks and communications equipment and more money for unmanned planes, he said.

He also said naval manpower would fall to 30,000 by 2015 and the total number of frigates and destroyers would drop from 23 to 19 by 2020.
'Missed opportunity'

But he said the government would procure a fleet of hunter killer Astute class submarines, complete production of six Type 45 destroyers and and start a programme to develop "less expensive, more flexible, modern frigates".

Mr Cameron also vowed to push ahead with replacing Britain's Trident nuclear missile system but said their replacement would be scaled back, with the number of warheads per boat cut from 48 to 40, as part of a £750m package of savings.

The life of the current Trident submarines would also be extended, with the final spending decision on their replacement delayed until 2016 - after the next general election.

Labour leader Ed Miliband said the review was a "missed opportunity".

He told MPs: "It is a spending review dressed up as a defence review, it has been chaotically conducted, it has been hastily prepared and it is simply not credible as a strategic blueprint for our future defence needs."

BBC defence correspondent Caroline Wyatt said the decision to decommission the Ark Royal immediately and axe the UK's force of Harrier jump jets meant that, until at least 2019, no planes would be able to fly from the new aircraft carriers.

Shadow defence secretary Jim Murphy described the arrangement as "peculiar" and "driven by finance".

He told the BBC: "What's the purpose of an aircraft carrier if not to carry aircraft? And I think to leave our country without a single fixed-wing aircraft able to fly off our aircraft carriers for a decade is a very worrying decision.

"It can't be driven by security needs or strategic needs. No-one based on the security needs of our country would come to the decision that a decade without an aeroplane on an aircraft carrier is the right decision."

Defence Secretary Liam Fox told the BBC there had been periods in the past - before the Harriers came on stream - when the UK had aircraft carriers with no planes to fly on them. Dr Fox said there would be a range of helicopters and unmanned aircraft which would still be able to fly from them.

At least one of the new carriers will be redesigned so that it can deploy normal fighter aircraft that do not need a Harrier-style vertical lift capability - allowing strike fighter aircraft from allies like France to land on UK aircraft carriers, and vice versa.
Bottom line? A WSJ piece said it best, something like 'UK military to do less with less'. There's no way to make this look pretty IMO. Certainly the UK budget is under strain, but exempting NHS and other social services from cuts made unacceptably large cuts in defence spending and other programs an inevitability.

The aircraft carrier mess, while definitely a headline grabber (no serious fixed-wing projection power for over a decade?! Building 2 carriers, but mothballing one immediately?) is hardly the only concern. Conventional ground forces have been seriously slashed. I'll admit it's not necessary to keep armored brigades in Germany any longer, but they've seriously cut into Britain's armored strength, and reduced full infantry strength quite significantly. It's unlikely now that UK forces would be able to manage any significant overseas deployment without US help. Hell, we've seen that already in Afghanistan - UK troops simply don't have enough equipment to provide transport, supply, and air/artillery support on their own. Cutting that capability further does not bode well.

Cutting the size of the RN was probably necessary, but given how small their surface combatant force is already, it's another worrying development. At least they kept the Astute class program going and are (theoretically) keeping the Trident deterrent funded, albeit at a somewhat reduced level.

If the UK is interested in only protecting its borders, this is probably more than sufficient. But if it wants to maintain pretensions as a global power, they just took a serious step backwards. I appreciate that the UK is still far outspending most of NATO (they actually manage about 2% of GDP as recommended by NATO), but they're not just aiming for regional defence but serious global presence.

One other note: It's clear that a lot of this mess is due to a bloated and inefficient procurement system. Many of the canceled projects are way over budget and schedule - the carriers, the Nimrod reconnaissance planes, the gap between Harrier retirement and JSF availability, the Type 45 destroyers and Astute class attack subs, etc. The current government was stuck with an unenviable task of deciding which overbudget programs should be axed (even after spending billions), and which should be completed, albeit at significant cost.

The capability gaps and budget holes are to a large extent caused by this procurements mess, and the UK doesn't have the luxury of being profligate like the US does. If a US carrier is behind schedule, that's okay - we've got a dozen others that can maintain global coverage in a pinch. Ditto for cutting an overpriced or aging aircraft program - we have so many planes of various types out there, that cutting a single program (a la F-22) is hardly a major capability gap. Hell, we can scrape by with ancient refueling tankers and delays in our transport aircraft because our raw numbers can absorb the logistical hurdles. Yet the UK can't afford this luxury, working on a shoestring projection capability like they are. Other small militaries with global pretensions (France, anyone) should take note. For that matter, the US should learn from the mistakes of others and work to reform the DoD procurement system and ensure that capability gaps never arise.

Keeping a global military going is expensive and difficult, and requires forward planning going into the decades. I admire the UK government's effort to make do with a smaller budget because of current constraints, but I question the long-term wisdom of these moves. UK foreign policy will become more and more hamstrung by budgetary pressures and reduced capabilities.