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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    At least it looks like Corbyn will leave. But I'm not sure how many competent MPs are left.

    I don't think any of the Democrats who have a shot at winning (Biden, Warren, Sanders, Buttigieg) are nearly as toxic as Corbyn, but this is still an important lesson.
    Biden being handsy with little girls really should be the only campaign ad Trump needs to run.

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    Hah, DUP - 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    Biden being handsy with little girls really should be the only campaign ad Trump needs to run.
    The same Trump who regularly talked about how hot his own daughter was?
    Hope is the denial of reality

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    The same Trump who regularly talked about how hot his own daughter was?
    Sexual appeal is just like any other physical attribute. "My kid has a PhD." and "My kid has fantastic looks." are just bragging. For Trump it is all just ego, their appearances/accomplishments are things he wants to take credit for.

    Meanwhile you got gems like this...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAymXlGSplU

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    Sexual appeal is just like any other physical attribute.
    Er, no it isn't, and as a parent you should know it isn't. It's why you wouldn't bat an eye if someone complimented your son on his throwing arm, but would definitely be more proactive if they were waxing eloquent about his nubile body.
    Last edited by Enoch the Red; 12-13-2019 at 03:53 PM.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Enoch the Red View Post
    Er, no it isn't, and as a parent you should know it isn't. It's why you wouldn't bat an eye if someone complimented your son on his throwing arm, but would definitely be more proactive if they were waxing eloquent about his nubile body.
    The difference would be age. There isn't anything wrong with a mother telling their adult son they are handsome or a father calling their adult daughter beautiful. While spending overlong on the subject isn't ideal the point isn't that Trump wants to bang his daughter its that he takes pride in how hot she is. Biden on the other hand isn't complimenting the kids when he lays his hands on them.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    The difference would be age. There isn't anything wrong with a mother telling their adult son they are handsome or a father calling their adult daughter beautiful. While spending overlong on the subject isn't ideal the point isn't that Trump wants to bang his daughter its that he takes pride in how hot she is. Biden on the other hand isn't complimenting the kids when he lays his hands on them.
    Of course there isn't anything wrong with telling your son or daughter that they are handsome or beautiful. But that's not what we are talking about, we are talking about going around telling OTHER people that your son or daughter is handsome or beautiful, for reasons other than playing match maker.

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    Sexual appeal is just like any other physical attribute. "My kid has a PhD." and "My kid has fantastic looks." are just bragging. For Trump it is all just ego, their appearances/accomplishments are things he wants to take credit for.

    Meanwhile you got gems like this...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAymXlGSplU
    You're seriously attacking Biden for invading people's personal space while supporting someone who openly admitted to sexual assault?
    Hope is the denial of reality

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    You're seriously attacking Biden for invading people's personal space while supporting someone who openly admitted to sexual assault?
    The key is consent. The infamous statement includes "they let you" line. Furthermore we are talking about tactics. Just play the clip as a campaign ad and let it speak for itself.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    The key is consent. The infamous statement includes "they let you" line.
    This is not how consent works you creepy fuck. This is how sexual assault works. The key part of that quote is Trump admitting he doesn't wait for consent, and several of his victims have confirmed that that is how he operates.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Creeper in Chief
    Although she does have a very nice figure. I’ve said that if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.”
    Quote Originally Posted by The Creeper in Chief
    My daughter, Ivanka. She’s 6 feet tall, she’s got the best body.”
    Quote Originally Posted by The Creeper in Chief
    “Yeah, she’s really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father….”
    Quote Originally Posted by The Creeper in Chief
    “Is it wrong to be more sexually attracted to your own daughter than your wife?”
    After they kissed, the host commented: “It’s nice to see a dad kiss his daughter.”

    According to several studio witnesses, Mr Trump replied that he kisses Ivanka “with every chance [he] gets”. The comment was apparently edited out of the final cut of the show when it went to air.
    POTUS is a creepy fuck with a history of sexual assault and infidelity, as well as extremely disturbing comments about his own daughter, to whom he compared his pornstar mistress right before having sex with her. You know what your defense of this behavior makes you look like?

    Well, I suppose it makes you look like a model white Evangelical, now that I think about it. The natural constituency for the Roy Moores of the world.
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  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    This is not how consent works you creepy fuck.
    I don't generally like +1s or the use of a like (or dislike) system. But I can't "thumbs up" hard enough for this. And even disregarding Lewk's total denial about what consent means, how exactly does he square "well, they didn't object to it after he was done groping them. Or at least not loudly enough for me to listen" as his standard with having a problem regarding Biden who hasn't crossed that line either? And then of course there's Roy Moore who went rather farther than Biden even in what he actually admitted to but Lewk kept saying "now hold on a minute, let's not be hasty" there. Totally fucking delusional.
    Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"

  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    Sexual appeal is just like any other physical attribute. "My kid has a PhD." and "My kid has fantastic looks." are just bragging.
    There is something digustingly wrong with you. Not even sane pageant parents talk about their kids like this or as Trump has.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    The same Trump who regularly talked about how hot his own daughter was?
    The Groper-in-Chief who said to "grab 'em by the pussy" and who has collected numerous accusations of sexual harassment, assault, and rape? Yeah, I don't think claims of sexual misconduct about Biden are going to matter much except as confirmation bias for people who were totally committed to Trump in the first place.
    Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"

  14. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy View Post
    The Groper-in-Chief who said to "grab 'em by the pussy" and who has collected numerous accusations of sexual harassment, assault, and rape? Yeah, I don't think claims of sexual misconduct about Biden are going to matter much except as confirmation bias for people who were totally committed to Trump in the first place.
    From a solely tactical rather than moral point of view... it's not like the right hasn't had a ton of success with accusing their left wing opponents of the very thing they are themselves doing at that very moment. See: attacks on Corbyn for anti-semitism from a party lead by a guy who uses phrases like 'water melon smiles' about black people in national newspapers, or the whole But Her E-mails thing when so many members of the Trump administration have misused their own e-mail systems in the same way etc etc.

    Plus, the right doesn't actually give a shit about women being sexually assaulted unless they can use it as an excuse to vilify some other group they already hate, so that line of attack on Biden would be more effective than the reverse on Trump.
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