Happy now BLM?

[Lewkowski]

Managing their relations with the community is part of their job. Dealing with those violent offenders and protecting the rest of the community from them is also part of their job. At every level of consideration wrt what leads to the community reactions, the responsibility is with the police. They are uniquely responsible because every single part of it is their literal area of responsibility.

I'm confused by what you mean 'that is part of their job.' Because it is someone's job you can ignore the very real dangers and stressers inherit to the situation? Asking people to simply 'do their job' in places that regularly have shot outs with people who attack emergency vehicles (firefighters, ambulances) is pretty absurd. You can't ignore what difficulties the police just trying to 'do their job.'

[LittleFuzzy]

Just because it is their area of responsibility job wise does not mean and never has meant they are uniquely responsible. That's like saying 9/11 and every other terrorist attack was uniquely the responsibility of the intelligence services because it is their responsibility to prevent terrorist attacks, that is their job, so therefore the terrorists are not at all responsible themselves

Yes the Police are responsible, but so too are the criminals. Just because the Police have the job of dealing with them does not excise any responsibility from those that are committing crimes and creating a dangerous environment for the public and the Police. Again you need to look at the full picture not half of it.

Sure the criminals share responsible. But guess what, they're criminals. The fact that criminals act with no sense of responsibility or accountability toward the rest of us is why we have the police in the first place. Their function is to step in and provide what the criminals are taking away from the community. Instead, they're doubling down on the effect the criminals have and are making things worse.

I'm confused by what you mean 'that is part of their job.' Because it is someone's job you can ignore the very real dangers and stressers inherit to the situation? Asking people to simply 'do their job' in places that regularly have shot outs with people who attack emergency vehicles (firefighters, ambulances) is pretty absurd. You can't ignore what difficulties the police just trying to 'do their job.'

I'm not asking anyone to ignore anything. But that doesn't mean that what arises from their actions ceases to be their responsibility.