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  1. #2191
    Okay, so

    In about two weeks, I'll be presenting my lab and some fancy-looking results to...a teenage kid from Southern Europe, courtesy of the Make a Wish foundation.

    Does anyone know if they have to be terminal to be accepted into the charity program? Cuz that's gonna be one depressing demonstration
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  2. #2192
    They do not have to be terminal. And if you're worried about appearances, they usually try to get the wishes that involve other people to happen before there are obvious signs of death knocking on the door. Some wishes are even granted after the kid is cured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nessus View Post
    Okay, so

    In about two weeks, I'll be presenting my lab and some fancy-looking results to...a teenage kid from Southern Europe, courtesy of the Make a Wish foundation.

    Does anyone know if they have to be terminal to be accepted into the charity program? Cuz that's gonna be one depressing demonstration


    I can't imagine how you're going to do the presentation though.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  4. #2194
    I've done it for Finnish high school kids many times, same thing here I guess. Except it'll apparently be through a translator as the kid's English isn't very good :/
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

  5. #2195
    Do it in Finnish!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beeb
    Vermont farmer in tractor crushes seven police cars



    A farmer in the US state of Vermont who was facing a minor drugs charge is now in more serious trouble after driving a tractor over seven police cars.

    Roger Pion crushed the county sheriff's cruisers on Thursday before making his getaway on the farm vehicle.

    The 34-year-old was stopped by police in Newport city, northern Vermont, not far from the crime scene.

    Sheriff's deputies were unaware of the destruction in their department car park until a resident called 911.

    Orleans County Sheriff Kirk Martin said they were initially unable to give chase as their cars had been wrecked.

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    Okay, so there's this friend of mine from school. Kept contact with him through Facebook and he always seemed like an ok guy. Until he began liking and linking stuff from Vegan sites. And with that I don't mean "Eat less meat and more plants" or harmless stuff like that.

    No, it had to be "The Milk Lie", a (sadly enough) documentary by the German public channels (that they broadcasted this rubbish is bad enough) where they mixed actually valid complaints (like how cattle are treated) with stuff like "Dairy causes cancer!"

    Basis for this pseudo-scientific stuff? The China Study, where some guy arrives at the conclusion that some ingredient of dairy milk causes cancer and meat (be that beef, pork, chicken or fish!) is generally bad for your health (I quote: "Every bit of cholesterol above 0 (zero) milligrams is bad for you!")

    Too bad that the data he presented in his book can also be interpreted way differently (it's statistics, after all!), up to the point where his data shows that hand-rolled cigarettes have a cancer-preventative effect...

    I got into a bit of an argument with the Vegan guys on Facebook. And decided to pull out after they accused one of the links I posted as trying to make fun of Veganism which shouldn't be allowed due to the "Freedom of religion and beliefs"!

    Right. And here I was thinking we were talking about scientific studies.
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    I've learned lately, Khen, that people posting on Facebook are nutters. You can't trust anyone to have a real discussion anymore; if you challenge it they become unstable.

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    Heh? Aren't the people you got on Facebook, the usual ones you talk with in real life too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catgrrl View Post
    I've learned lately, Khen, that people posting on Facebook are nutters. You can't trust anyone to have a real discussion anymore; if you challenge it they become unstable.
    Obviously. I suspect, however, that those guys were unstable from the start. Going through the comments I couldn't help but think "Best example for Confirmation Bias I've ever seen".

    Seriously, we have a several millenia long history with dairy and we also didn't get rid of our cuspids. How on earth do they arrive at the conclusion that drinking milk or eating meat in even the tiniest amount can be bad for you?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kazuha Vinland View Post
    Heh? Aren't the people you got on Facebook, the usual ones you talk with in real life too?
    Not if it's the "friend of a friend" variety
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khendraja'aro View Post
    Okay, so there's this friend of mine from school. Kept contact with him through Facebook and he always seemed like an ok guy. Until he began liking and linking stuff from Vegan sites. And with that I don't mean "Eat less meat and more plants" or harmless stuff like that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Khendraja'aro View Post
    No, it had to be "The Milk Lie", a (sadly enough) documentary by the German public channels (that they broadcasted this rubbish is bad enough) where they mixed actually valid complaints (like how cattle are treated) with stuff like "Dairy causes cancer!"

    Basis for this pseudo-scientific stuff? The China Study, where some guy arrives at the conclusion that some ingredient of dairy milk causes cancer and meat (be that beef, pork, chicken or fish!) is generally bad for your health (I quote: "Every bit of cholesterol above 0 (zero) milligrams is bad for you!")

    Too bad that the data he presented in his book can also be interpreted way differently (it's statistics, after all!), up to the point where his data shows that hand-rolled cigarettes have a cancer-preventative effect...

    I got into a bit of an argument with the Vegan guys on Facebook. And decided to pull out after they accused one of the links I posted as trying to make fun of Veganism which shouldn't be allowed due to the "Freedom of religion and beliefs"!

    Right. And here I was thinking we were talking about scientific studies.
    You mean Freedom of not having anyone disagree with my views?

    On the flip side, I was talking to a fellow student here after I made a vegetarian dinner (didn't even plan for it, by the way, it was just delicious the way it was, why add meat?). I half joking said it was to save the environment, because meat is seriously bad for the environment. His counter was that if everybody stops eating meat and eat plants instead, there wouldn't be enough room on the world to feed everybody I tried explaining to him that it uses far less room compared to meat, but he couldn't see that cattle requires food as well, and that this is in fact even a quite serious problem. And that guy studies at a university... I mean, I'm not a vegetarian at all, but you have to be honest about the good and the bad.
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    I actually didn't say that veganism or vegetarism is a bad life style. It's just the missionary types using bad science to further their agenda I have a problem with. I made it very clear that my beef (heh!) was with the science side of this "documentary".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khendraja'aro View Post
    I actually didn't say that veganism or vegetarism is a bad life style. It's just the missionary types using bad science to further their agenda I have a problem with. I made it very clear that my beef (heh!) was with the science side of this "documentary".
    Oh yeah, sorry I didn't make it clear, I agree with you there! I was talking about my fellow student there
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    Checking the news always gives some WTFs..

    First, reading that the relatives of the guy who died in the car crash with Ryan Dunn are suing his estate. They blame him for the crash (he had been drinking, and was speeding), which is understandable. They want to be repaid for costs made after his death, fair enough I suppose. They also want to the money he would have earned in the rest of his life. Bit of a WTF there, because first of all that's what a life insurance is for, second, they wouldn't be getting his wages, their son would, and third, let's not forget he voluntarily stepped into that car. Oh, and they also want compensation for the 'fear and pain' he suffered before the crash. Again, he stepped into the car voluntarily, should have gotten a cab instead. And it was a car crash, he died on the scene, probably instantly. I feel to see how this should be grounds to give millions to his family. To me it looks like gold digging the loss of a loved one.. They're also suing the bar, by the way.

    Second bit of news was about Kim Dotcom, the dude who ran megaupload. By now the search warrants have been declared illegal, so the case seems to be falling anyway. Now I personally think that he was of course fully aware of what was going on on his site and made millions of it, and that at best he was far into the legally grey area of copyright laws. If they prove he broke the laws, and is convicted, I won't shed a single tear, he knew what he was doing.

    However, although local police and the FBI denied using helicopters and automatic weapons, there's now videos out that were shown in court, showing that they lied about that. I appreciate that tactical teams are important to arrest suspects that are considered a threat. I also appreciate that sometimes you need to go in fast to prevent destroying evidence (flushing drugs, deleting data..). But the police say themselves they did not consider him a threat, the servers were already seized by the FBI, yet they land two helicopters, tactical teams with automatic weapons, and dog teams in to his home, that also housed guests, staff, his children, and his pregnant wife. Why on earth would they need such a show of force?? The helicopters were according to the police because there was a fence, and security, but in the video you can see police cars driving up to the house right after the helicopter has just landed. And speed to prevent im from destroying evidence? Aside from the fact that the servers were already seized, they took 15 minutes to arrest him. I suspect ringing the doorbell would have been quicker. This kind of unnecessary police force seems like intimidation, if anything.

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  17. #2207
    I love how he didn't pay the helicopters any mind because he is simply used to them landing on his property


    but yeah, the authorities, on both sides of the world, have screwed this one up just about every way possible.
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    Simple Flixy, if they don't use these resources, they might lose them! Then they wouldn't be able to use them on recreational pot smokers!
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    Oh, dear --- never argue with a dedicated vegan. It tends to end in ugly, and before ya know it....even your choice in footwear is up for criticism.

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    I have Vegan shoes
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    Anotehr American justice WTF - so Naser Jason Abdo was convicted to a life sentence for attempting to bomb American troops, fair enough. Convicted of attempted murder of federal employees, and 4 counts of possessing a weapon in furtherance of a a federal crime, again, fair enough. But also convicted of attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction .

    Okay, if bombs are now weapons of mass destruction, I guess Iraq did have WMDs after all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flixy View Post
    Second bit of news was about Kim Dotcom, the dude who ran megaupload. By now the search warrants have been declared illegal, so the case seems to be falling anyway. Now I personally think that he was of course fully aware of what was going on on his site and made millions of it, and that at best he was far into the legally grey area of copyright laws. If they prove he broke the laws, and is convicted, I won't shed a single tear, he knew what he was doing.

    However, although local police and the FBI denied using helicopters and automatic weapons, there's now videos out that were shown in court, showing that they lied about that. I appreciate that tactical teams are important to arrest suspects that are considered a threat. I also appreciate that sometimes you need to go in fast to prevent destroying evidence (flushing drugs, deleting data..). But the police say themselves they did not consider him a threat, the servers were already seized by the FBI, yet they land two helicopters, tactical teams with automatic weapons, and dog teams in to his home, that also housed guests, staff, his children, and his pregnant wife. Why on earth would they need such a show of force?? The helicopters were according to the police because there was a fence, and security, but in the video you can see police cars driving up to the house right after the helicopter has just landed. And speed to prevent im from destroying evidence? Aside from the fact that the servers were already seized, they took 15 minutes to arrest him. I suspect ringing the doorbell would have been quicker. This kind of unnecessary police force seems like intimidation, if anything.
    Do you know how the FBI justified the insane raid of Kim Dotcom's mansion? By saying that it suspected that Kim Dotcom had a 'doomsday' device that could "wipe out evidence of internet piracy around the world." No, seriously.

    Grant Wormald, the detective inspector who oversaw the operation for the Organized and Financial Crime Agency (Ofcanz) said he was told by the FBI that Dotcom "carried a device with him to delete servers around the world". Apparently, the 'Doomsday' delete-all-servers device could have been triggered "in seconds" from any computer or phone on the property. Of course, no device was ever found in the raid but that didn't stop the feds from sending choppers and a crapton of officers more fit for a drug kingpin than an online pirate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flixy View Post
    Okay, if bombs are now weapons of mass destruction, I guess Iraq did have WMDs after all
    America has arrested its own citizens under terrorism charges for throwing plastic soda cups between moving cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post


    America has arrested its own citizens under terrorism charges for throwing plastic soda cups between moving cars.
    Source?
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    I'm pretty sure its in either this thread or the old WTF thread. It was a case of road rage, and one driver threw a gas station soda at the other car. Police considered that a projectile, and since it was launched from a moving car, it landed under the definition of terrorism.

    I'll see if its still something I can find in google.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    It was a case of road rage, and one driver threw a gas station soda at the other car. Police considered that a projectile, and since it was launched from a moving car, it landed under the definition of terrorism.
    Officer Bob: So you're saying you threw this cup from your car at this guy in his car?
    Guy: I guess so, why?
    Officer Bob: So we have an object here that was forcibly propelled at a target, by hand, is that correct Officer Steve?
    Officer Steve: That is correct Officer Bob, and we all know that defines a missile.
    Guy: What!?
    Officer Bob: So you launched a missile at this other guy from your moving vehicle. Terrorists launch missiles at people from vehicles, hence it seems you are a terrorist.
    Guy: WHAT!?
    Officer Steve: Looks like we're going to have to arrest you for terrorism.
    . . .

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    Half an hour ago got a call from a colleague at work asking if I was at home (not, at work elsewhere). She followed up by explaining that the road I live off has been closed off by the Police and did I know what was going on? No.

    Can't find anything from Cheshire Police or any other sources, don't ever normally use it but went on Twitter. Apparently there's something massive happening in Bewsey, Warrington - Police Cars, Police Choppers, Ambulances, road closures etc ... only official word is that the trains between Warrington to Wigan have also been stopped, given that a Warrington v Wigan Superleague game had just finished quite a few people stopped by that. Still no idea what's going on and there's no official word still, don't think I can even get close to my house right now.
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    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    http://patriciopalladino.com/blog/20...avascript.html

    And this, guys, is why you don't allow insertion of Javascript into user-editable forms like those for forums. As you can see, blacklists don't cut it
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    3 hours on and my roads still closed off by the Police. The local Warrington Guardian is reporting that there's an "armed siege" there, it's a big segment of the road that's closed including the only entrance to our estate.

    http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/...medium=twitter

    Other reports are saying that its someone theatening to jump off a bridge. Hard to get news about anything but the Olympics.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    3 hours on and my roads still closed off by the Police. The local Warrington Guardian is reporting that there's an "armed siege" there, it's a big segment of the road that's closed including the only entrance to our estate.

    http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/...medium=twitter

    Other reports are saying that its someone theatening to jump off a bridge. Hard to get news about anything but the Olympics.
    Well after 5 hours of the road being closed a 24 year old man was arrested. Turned out he was threatening to jump off the bridge and onto the railway tracks underneath. Arsehole.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    and your updating is only feeding the attention he wanted if he ever googles for this
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