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  1. #1
    UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and Norway impose sanctions on the most normal ministers in the Israeli government:

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-gaza-comments
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  2. #2
    US F-15s out of RAF Lakenheath were running low level flying exercises in the Lake District mountains pretty much every single day in May. Even a c-17 on one occasion.
    The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
    The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
    When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
    I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun

  3. #3
    Israel's allies expected to activate pikachu face
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  4. #4
    Trump doesn't want a war in Iran, but neither he nor the people around him care enough to even try to stop Netanyahu—who, in turn, doesn't care what the US wants. Trump would be far happier if he were allowed to focus on abusing people closer to home, like most would-be dictators and narcissists.
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    Trump doesn't want a war in Iran, but neither he nor the people around him care enough to even try to stop Netanyahu—who, in turn, doesn't care what the US wants. Trump would be far happier if he were allowed to focus on abusing people closer to home, like most would-be dictators and narcissists.
    I wouldn't say he wants an active war with Iran, but he does want an international security crisis, and I think he also a strike on Iran's nuclear industry because his negotiations were going nowhere and that's just his kind of approach to "deal-making". Like most narcissists, he's convinced he can manipulate people to do whatever he wants, even though there's ample evidence otherwise
    Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy View Post
    I wouldn't say he wants an active war with Iran, but he does want an international security crisis, and I think he also a strike on Iran's nuclear industry because his negotiations were going nowhere and that's just his kind of approach to "deal-making". Like most narcissists, he's convinced he can manipulate people to do whatever he wants, even though there's ample evidence otherwise
    The moron is most influenced by the last guy he spoke to.

    But when he?s all said and done, he is bought and paid for. You don?t get lots of Zionist money for your presidential campaign and then not submit to their demands. It?s time to pay the piper.

    How many dead Americans and how much American treasure are you comfortable parting with to please Israel? And don?t do your acrobatics telling us that it?s actually the ZioNazis doing the Americans a favour.
    Oh come on with the "genocide" rhetoric.


  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by BluntHorse View Post
    The moron is most influenced by the last guy he spoke to.

    But when he?s all said and done, he is bought and paid for. You don?t get lots of Zionist money for your presidential campaign and then not submit to their demands. It?s time to pay the piper.
    You do if you're Trump. He doesn't keep the deals he makes. Another reason I think it was at his behest. I sure as hell don't support any of this. Far from the first thing this regime has done that I hated, either internationally or domestically. And it won't be the last, since I think the wannabe-king is gonna drive us into a civil war and thoroughly hash us across the globe while doing so.
    Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy View Post
    You do if you're Trump. He doesn't keep the deals he makes. Another reason I think it was at his behest. I sure as hell don't support any of this. Far from the first thing this regime has done that I hated, either internationally or domestically. And it won't be the last, since I think the wannabe-king is gonna drive us into a civil war and thoroughly hash us across the globe while doing so.
    Doesn?t keep his deals apart for the ZioNazi child killing regime. He even pulls out chairs for its leader wanted on war criminal charges.

    Your politicians are bought and paid for by the Israel lobby. They brag about it.

    Your foreign policy went to the highest bidder?who then gets the money they spent on it back 40 fold in ?military aid'.

    It's not just Gaza and Palestine that are occupied but your congress too.

    The last few years have made it hard to ignore.
    Oh come on with the "genocide" rhetoric.


  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy View Post
    I wouldn't say he wants an active war with Iran, but he does want an international security crisis, and I think he also a strike on Iran's nuclear industry because his negotiations were going nowhere and that's just his kind of approach to "deal-making". Like most narcissists, he's convinced he can manipulate people to do whatever he wants, even though there's ample evidence otherwise
    Though I agree with your characterization of his personality, I'm less sure about the characterization of the situation at hand.

    For example, the negotiations hadn't come to a standstill - see eg. Chris Murphy's statement just now, as well as reports on the proposals for a uranium enrichment consortium.

    Now there are credible reports of Iran receiving advance warning from the US prior to the strike on Fordow, enabling the evacuation of the facility and a politically feasible means of heading of escalation, leaving open a measured (symbolic) tit-for-tat exchange like in 2020.

    As much as it pains me to admit this, I think Bolton - who is somehow still alive - is right in his assessment that Trump mostly just wanted to look like he's calling the shots rather than being the latest in a long line of US presidents to get slapped in the face by an Israeli govt. that has no intention of letting the US decide its posture on nukes in the region.

    So I think the leaders and regimes in both Iran and the US would prefer to not have a war. Unfortunately, there are extraordinarily stupid and quite bellicose factions in both countries who DO want war - or at least escalatory steps that vastly increase the likelihood of war - so we're left with a scenario where may have to hope for the Iranian regime's survival (which is made less likely by Israel's commitment to setting off a war) as well as for Congress to, uh, not use its authority (made less likely by both Republican and Democratic legislators' addiction to war).
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    Though I agree with your characterization of his personality, I'm less sure about the characterization of the situation at hand.
    *shrugs* Maybe. I try hard to apply Hanlon's Razor when assessing things, but it's easy to get lost in the general insanity when you're in the belly of the beast.
    Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"

  11. #11
    trump longs for war in iran
    The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
    The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
    When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
    I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun

  12. #12
    All of you are assuming Trump has coherent thoughts.

  13. #13
    In the middle east's only democracy - an enlightened bastion of virtue, where Palestinian Arab citizens have equal rights - ordinary men and women are happy to condemn their 5-y-o neighbors to death:

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/...ombs-rain-down

    For Samar al-Rashed, a 29-year-old single mother living in a mostly Jewish apartment complex near Acre, the reality of that exclusion came on Friday night. Samar was at home with her five-year-old daughter, Jihan. As sirens pierced the air, warning of incoming missiles, she grabbed her daughter and rushed for the building’s shelter.

    “I didn’t have time to pack anything,” she recalled. “Just water, our phones, and my daughter’s hand in mine.”

    The panicking mother tried to ease her daughter’s fear, while hiding her own, gently encouraging her in soft-spoken Arabic to keep up with her rushed steps towards the shelter, as other neighbours climbed down the stairs, too.

    But at the shelter door, she said, an Israeli resident, having heard her speak Arabic, blocked their entry – and shut it in their faces.

    “I was stunned,” she said. “I speak Hebrew fluently. I tried to explain. But he looked at me with contempt and just said, ‘Not for you.’”
    Difficult to view this society with anything but contempt.
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  14. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    In the middle east's only democracy - an enlightened bastion of virtue, where Palestinian Arab citizens have equal rights - ordinary men and women are happy to condemn their 5-y-o neighbors to death:

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/...ombs-rain-down



    Difficult to view this society with anything but contempt.
    BuT wE hAvE aRaB jUdGeS

    The example you have posted is sick, but it could easily be dismissed as an anomaly. So let’s be clear that the discrimination is systemic.

    My Israeli friends tell me that Arab majority areas in the ZioNazi Jewish Supremacist state have less shelters and warning systems or none. Backed up by reporting.

    The Israeli Government Neglected to Build Shelters in Arab Towns. Now Deaths Are Rising

    Lack of Protective Structures Against Missile Attacks in Arab Localities

    With few shelters but plenty of roadblocks, East Jerusalem Arabs squeezed by war

    The lack of self awareness of the ZioNazi population is simply stunning. Crying about hospitals being attacked as War Crimes.

    And about their latest victims daring to retaliate is all antisemitic or some bullshit. It was promised to them 3000 years ago that the goyim are not allowed to fight back and other goyim have to do their bidding.

    The latest massacre of Palestinians whilst getting aid is disgraceful.

    Accusing the Palestinians of shit whilst actually doing it themselves. In the last week we have learn that Israel:

    Has fucking IDF bases under their own hospitals.
    Uses their own population as actual human shields for military assets in densely populated areas.


    Fuck the ZioNazi entity. And fuck any wanker that justifies pulling America or Europe into a war on behalf of the ZioNazi state and Benjamin Mileikowsky the AshkeNAZI Polish freak.
    Oh come on with the "genocide" rhetoric.


  15. #15
    The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
    The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
    When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
    I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun

  16. #16
    In latest news from The World's Most Moral Army, via Haaretz:

    'It's a Killing Field': IDF Soldiers Ordered to Shoot Deliberately at Unarmed Gazans Waiting for Humanitarian Aid

    IDF officers and soldiers told Haaretz they were ordered to fire at unarmed crowds near food distribution sites in Gaza, even when no threat was present. Hundreds of Palestinians have been killed, prompting the military prosecution to call for a review into possible war crimes

    "It's a killing field," one soldier said....no crowd-control measures, no tear gas – just live fire w/ machine guns, grenade launchers, mortars. Then.. the shooting stops, they can approach. Our form of communication is gunfire."

    "These are areas where Palestinians are allowed to be – we're [IDF] the ones who moved closer and decided [they] endangered us. So, for a contractor to make another 5,000 shekels [$1500] and take down a house, it's deemed acceptable to kill people who are only looking for food."
    https://archive.ph/9CyTK#selection-211.0-215.277

    To date, over 400 starving people have been murdered by Israeli soldiers who've lured them out with food as bait. Every EU member state must investigate anyone in their respective jurisdictions that may have participated in these atrocities, and enhance their screening of any recently active IDF member seeking entry visas.
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  17. #17
    Manifestly Illegal: Israeli International Law Scholars on the Stated Plan to “Concentrate” the Palestinian Population in South Gaza


    Omer Bartov: I’m a Genocide Scholar. I Know It When I See It.

    The Israeli army is weaponizing Chinese-made drones to police expulsion orders across Gaza, with soldiers saying they deliberately target civilians so others will ‘learn’ not to return, an investigation reveals.


    Israeli soldier describes arbitrary killing of civilians in Gaza

    Ehud Olmert: forcing people into camp would be ethnic cleansing

    American citizen killed by settlers, IDF obsessed with shooting teen boys in the genitals:

    Six children killed by the IDF while queuing for water: https://news.sky.com/story/idf-blame...trike-13396138

    I'll just note that it takes a special kind of stupidity - incurable, lifelong stupidity born out of a total inability and unwillingness to connect with humanity - for a person to have ever believed that this is or has ever been the world's most moral army, or that this apartheid-addicted genocide-loving society is a decent one. Moral and social illiteracy.
    Last edited by Aimless; 07-15-2025 at 09:12 PM.
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  18. #18
    Is Netanyahu just attacking every country in the middle east on a rota now?
    The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
    The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
    When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
    I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun

  19. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    Is Netanyahu just attacking every country in the middle east on a rota now?
    everybody needs a hobby bro
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  20. #20
    Felt cute. Attacked Syria.

  21. #21
    I thought this thread - the most poplar on this forum with over 600k views - was about mocking people who think Israel is evil to be nutty and closet anti-semites.

    Them damn people advocating for Palestinian right — always making shit up and accusing Israel of morally abhorrent things because it's the hip thing to do or smthn. So many of you have said in this venerable thread.

    Where is Dreadnaught? Where is Wiggin? Israel needs you and your witty hasbara.

    Where is RandBlade to remind us everything is Hamas propaganda and that Palestinians don’t qualify for human rights?

    Where are people to remind us that it was a ‘land for a people for a people without a land’?

    Also, who gives a fuck? People who have not changed their views since this holocaust has started will not do so, even if they see Zionists shoving Palestinians into lit ovens alive (like they did in Deir Yasin in 1948, according to the testimony of a then 12 year old Fahim Zaydan). And definitely not after watching videos of Palestinian doctors raped to death in Sde Teiman.

    Call them what they are. ZioNazis.

    Pure evil.
    Oh come on with the "genocide" rhetoric.


  22. #22
    To the people who still think Israel's war is a good idea: what's an acceptable number of children that could starve to death to allow Israel to achieve its goals?

  23. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    To the people who still think Israel's war is a good idea: what's an acceptable number of children that could starve to death to allow Israel to achieve its goals?
    I'm wondering what the GOAL is? Make Israeli citizens safe from terrorist attack? Or is it a broader, lets say final, solution to the Palestinian Problem? Looking like the latter these days.
    The Rules
    Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
    Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
    Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)

  24. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    I'm wondering what the GOAL is? Make Israeli citizens safe from terrorist attack? Or is it a broader, lets say final, solution to the Palestinian Problem? Looking like the latter these days.
    I said on day 1 that Israel can't accomplish any of their stated objectives. This is all about revenge and prolonging the war to allow Netanyahu to stay in power.

    I don't think Israel is trying to wipe out the Palestinians, but neither does it consider mass killing of civilians a problem. It's willing to massacre hundreds to achieve minor military goals.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  25. #25
    They might not be aiming to personally execute every single Palestinian, but I don't think it's a stretch to say they don't want any of them living in Gaza and are conducting the war accordingly. Ethnic cleansing is the goal and always has been.
    The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
    The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
    When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
    I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun

  26. #26
    I do think it's the goal of some senior Israeli officials (including Netanyahu) to force all Palestinians to leave Gaza. Whether that's military policy is harder to say. I don't think Netanyahu can be open about such a policy without creating bigger rifts in the government and military.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  27. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I do think it's the goal of some senior Israeli officials (including Netanyahu) to force all Palestinians to leave Gaza. Whether that's military policy is harder to say. I don't think Netanyahu can be open about such a policy without creating bigger rifts in the government and military.
    When cabinet members openly state that the goal is ethnic cleansing, and the military is happy to go along with it, and troops appear to act in accordance with that goal, the question has been answered to my satisfaction. The only question that may still divide them is that of how frankly they should communicate with the outside world.
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  28. #28
    Dreadnaught, do you know this Rabbi Seven Burg?

    He tells the story of Avraham Azulay who was ‘brutally murdered in Gaza’.

    [QUOTE]These are the kinds of losses we’ve read about in Holocaust books and memorials—entire families decimated, young lives cut down, a generation’s hope extinguished before it could fully bloom. This isn’t just a personal tragedy. This is a biblical loss Yitzhar—a moment of communal mourning that echoes across our history and our souls.[/QUOTE

    Oy veyyy. It was a holocaust! An entire family decimated! The losses are biblical!

    Avraham was just a top guy. He just wanted to destroy Palestinians houses so they could never return.




    Azulay’s heroic efforts to fight against the Khamas were recounted. His bravery was celebrated. It was told that he went down fighting heroically.

    But unfortunately for Israel, everytime someone has a camera in their hands, events that contradict the Zionist narrive seems to be recorded.

    The dude died like a little bitch.



    So fuck your shitty lying murdererous ethnostate committing a holocaust against Palestinians.

    Does this upset you? Go donate to the IDF. Or maybe if you are smart, support AIPAC and help them buy American politicians so they can send everyone elses tax dollars to IsraHell.


    Quote Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy View Post
    After someone tells a people who were fleeing genocide to go back "home" to the location of said genocide, I just can't take anything they say credibly.
    So you welcome Palestinians and Gazans to the US now?
    Oh come on with the "genocide" rhetoric.


  29. #29
    They've been talking about it since almost the beginning ('rolling out the second nakba') and shopping around for countries to take the Gazans, but I guess it was all written off as whatever the Zionist version of locker room talk is.
    The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
    The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
    When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
    I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun

  30. #30
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

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