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    Quote Originally Posted by Flixy View Post
    Should be je ne sais pas - I don't know. Quoi? is what you say when you don't understand someone
    PAS! so what the fuck is quoi, Cain? I haven't spoken French in...over 20 years. My kid took one semester of intro, and listening to the radio while driving through Canada doesn't count.

    Is it time for some painful Celine Dion songs yet?

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    Thanks, I knew I'd spelled it wrong. Quoi? Too lazy to look it up. Sue me or forgive me.

    Out and about in the house, or a root in the boot....I live around people who say "youse", but that doesn't rhyme with house. Yowza.

    And how would you pronounce the island Phuket?

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    I don't think je ne sais quoi is correct french.
    Keep on keepin' the beat alive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flixy View Post
    I don't think je ne sais quoi is correct french.
    Probably not on the continent, but it is over here. It's even kind of an idiosyncratic phrase (in NA English) for saying that someone/something has a certain undefinable quality (or allure) about them/it.

    EDIT: Here we go, from the Wiktionary.

    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/je_ne_sais_quoi

    Etymology

    From French je ne sais quoi, literally ‘I don't know what’.
    Pronunciation

    * IPA: /ˌʒə nə sɛ ˈkwɑ:/

    Noun

    Singular
    je ne sais quoi


    Plural
    uncountable

    je ne sais quoi (uncountable)

    1. An intangible quality that makes something distinctive or attractive.

    She has a certain je ne sais quoi about her.


    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    PAS! so what the fuck is quoi, Cain?
    The French word for "what."
    "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."

    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

    -- Thomas Jefferson: American Founding Father, clairvoyant and seditious traitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenCain View Post
    Probably not on the continent, but it is over here. It's even kind of an idiosyncratic phrase (in NA English) for saying that someone/something has a certain undefinable quality (or allure) about them/it.

    EDIT: Here we go, from the Wiktionary.

    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/je_ne_sais_quoi
    Heh I assumed you meant with over here Canadians, and the Canadian I asked said it wasn't French either - but it's english apparently That last quote looks nice though, I should remember that phrase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flixy View Post
    Heh I assumed you meant with over here Canadians, and the Canadian I asked said it wasn't French either - but it's english apparently
    Or Quebecois. Or both?
    <shrug>

    Apparently there's a big difference between French and Quebecois, and French folks are uncharacteristically snooty about it.

    I'd complain, but frankly, I enjoy French-Canadians getting bashed, so I'm willing to overlook the fact that French people suck in this particular instance.
    "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."

    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

    -- Thomas Jefferson: American Founding Father, clairvoyant and seditious traitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenCain View Post
    Or Quebecois. Or both?
    <shrug>

    Apparently there's a big difference between French and Quebecois, and French folks are uncharacteristically snooty about it.

    I'd complain, but frankly, I enjoy French-Canadians getting bashed, so I'm willing to overlook the fact that French people suck in this particular instance.
    Hehe Asked a Montreal girl actually - but she speaks english as a first language so it's okay Not like any actual French people speak like what you learn in high school, but yeah, quebecois is pretty much raped French.
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    I need a refresher course. French is such a pretty language. Even the French accent in English is romantic

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    Okay! This one's for the math people. Value At Risk done differently might reduce panics. Or just misc. FYI.

    http://www.breakingviews.com/2010/05...spx?sg=nytimes

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    This is what you do:

    #1. Buy as much house as you can afford in a good, stable neighborhood. Take good care of your property, make regular upgrades to bathrooms and kitchen. Pay extra on your mortgage every month or whenever you can. Mark the check "for principle only." When you go to sell, it will be worth every bit you put in and then some.

    #2. Put as much money in your 401k as you can from every pay check. Make it automatic so you will stop thinking about it. Put your money into aggressive investments early on and transition to more secure investments as you get older. Ignore the ups and downs of the market, just keep on depositing your money. When you retire, you'll have a zillion dollars.

    #3. If you can max out your 401k contributions and you have extra disposable income, put money into an IRA account and/or an after tax account. Follow the same regimen as above.

    #4. Live happily ever after.

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    The Rules
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    Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
    Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)

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    420 smoke weed 'erryday
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

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    Kiss your children and go shopping.

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    Masturbate enthusiastically and frequently.
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

    And that's Why I'm Voting Leave.

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    Go have an orgy with random strangers.

    Daily.
    We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.

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    #1. This list deserves to be a thread in and of itself and it deserves to be properly completed.

    #2. This isn't what I meant.

    a. I assume y'all know what I actually meant

    b. But I'll explain anyway for anyone who's been living in a monestary: those are the personal finance "truths" I and
    everyone else in my demographic were taught over the last 20 years and they turned out to be false. And there's nothing to replace them.
    The Rules
    Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
    Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
    Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    #1. This list deserves to be a thread in and of itself and it deserves to be properly completed.

    #2. This isn't what I meant.

    a. I assume y'all know what I actually meant

    b. But I'll explain anyway for anyone who's been living in a monastery: those are the personal finance "truths" I and
    everyone else in my demographic were taught over the last 20 years and they turned out to be false. And there's nothing to replace them.
    So make the thread, Chacha.

    20 years ago I didn't care about the personal finance "truths," old man.

    Also, I disagree that it ever should have been taught as the way happiNess. Sounds like a great way to be miserable until you retire. Or have your first heart attack.
    We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.

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    I got b, I was ridiculing the situation where the washed up hippies and people who lived responsibly by b ended up closer to one another in life than the b advocates expected
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nessus View Post
    I got b, I was ridiculing the situation where the washed up hippies and people who lived responsibly by b ended up closer to one another in life than the b advocates expected


    I knew what you meant by (a), choobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nessus View Post
    I got b, I was ridiculing the situation where the washed up hippies and people who lived responsibly by b ended up closer to one another in life than the b advocates expected
    My demographic doesn't include "washed up hippies." I'm actually Gen X.

    Quote Originally Posted by littlelolligagged View Post
    So make the thread, Chacha.
    Will do. Might have to wait until tomorrow though...

    20 years ago I didn't care about the personal finance "truths," old man.
    Me neither. I'm old enough to be your older brother, that's about it. (How old do you monkeys think I am anyway? )

    Also, I disagree that it ever should have been taught as the way happiNess. Sounds like a great way to be miserable until you retire. Or have your first heart attack.
    Due to your confusing grammar, I'm not exactly sure of your point here but buying a house and saving money hasn't made me miserable at all. Losing 75% of the equity in my first house and 40% of the value of my investments has been trying, however.
    Last edited by EyeKhan; 05-14-2010 at 12:46 PM.
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    Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
    Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    My demographic doesn't include "washed up hippies." I'm actually Gen X.
    So you grew up in the seventies, or something? That's cool, I guess, gramps, but don't expect us to keep up
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nessus View Post
    So you grew up in the seventies, or something? That's cool, I guess, gramps, but don't expect us to keep up
    I was born in 1969, not long before the first moon landing.
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    Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
    Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nessus View Post
    I got b, I was ridiculing the situation where the washed up hippies and people who lived responsibly by b ended up closer to one another in life than the b advocates expected
    You seem to be unaware of the generation that hates hippies the most. And they deserve any bit of hatred they get flung at them and more. The hypocracy of that bunch is big enough to remake the definition of the word hypocracy.

    By the way; I did relatively well by not heeding what went for 'fiscal prudence' in Holland and I am quite happy seeing where that got me.
    Congratulations America

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    the definition of the word hypocracy.
    Since we're pointing out the definition of the word hypocrisy, we may as well point out its spelling too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

    And that's Why I'm Voting Leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timbuk2 View Post
    Since we're pointing out the definition of the word hypocrisy, we may as well point out its spelling too.
    Thanks, I hang my head in shame.
    Congratulations America

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    Oh don't worry, I'm blissfully unaware of most things, just ask Low-key!
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nessus View Post
    Oh don't worry, I'm blissfully unaware of most things, just ask Low-key!
    Blissful? Hardly.
    The Rules
    Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
    Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
    Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    Blissful? Hardly.
    You're not good at this reading stuff, are you

    Spoiler:
    It's not my lack of knowledge that inhibits my bliss, now is it
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nessus View Post
    You're not good at this reading stuff, are you

    Spoiler:
    It's not my lack of knowledge that inhibits my bliss, now is it
    No. Bliss is a lie.
    The Rules
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    Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
    Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)

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    Are you feeling Panicky, choobs? Do you remember the crash of '87 or were you too busy being 18 years old?

    What sucks is this: being conservative and prudent, living within one's means, saving for retirement by following traditional advice, planning and plodding along....only to watch it dwindle and shrink, or make huge highs and lows like a roller coaster. Then to see people who lived high on the hog while turning the markets into a pig-in-a-poke trading BBQ fuckfest get bailed out, at the expense of the saver and the little guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    Are you feeling Panicky, choobs? Do you remember the crash of '87 or were you too busy being 18 years old?
    I remember Black Monday. My father was extremely shaken.... I'm not panicky at all. I'm really pissed about the house. I could understand if Dearborn had some kind of run up in property values that got corrected, but it didn't. But I'm far enough away from retirement that the current turmoils will probably end up better for me in the long run. But of course, that's me spouting the old conventional wisdom....

    What sucks is this: being conservative and prudent, living within one's means, saving for retirement by following traditional advice, planning and plodding along....only to watch it dwindle and shrink, or make huge highs and lows like a roller coaster. Then to see people who lived high on the hog while turning the markets into a pig-in-a-poke trading BBQ fuckfest get bailed out, at the expense of the saver and the little guy.
    Yeah. That.
    The Rules
    Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
    Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
    Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)

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