Page 5 of 200 FirstFirst ... 345671555105 ... LastLast
Results 121 to 150 of 6161

Thread: Brexit Begins

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    http://www.votewatch.eu/en/term8-reg...4-on-key-.html

    The data source is votewatch.eu - go to votewatch.eu and you can find archived plenty of 28-0 votes like this one here. So you're wrong.

    If unanimity were impossible to record then it would be literally impossible to make 2004-2009's figures because there is <2% losing votes for almost all nations and even the biggest losers like the UK peak at <3%
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  2. #2
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ency?CMP=fb_gu

    So silly. Can't they just subpoena the government for the kids' smartphone location data?
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  3. #3
    Bureaucrats

    That's what happens when bureaucrats rather than companies are required to provide a "service".
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  4. #4
    You're right, they should have punched the kids in the face and dragged them kicking and screaming out of the UK.
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  5. #5
    At least with companies we can boycott United. I wouldn't fly United or Ryanair before this and wouldn't afterwards. How do you boycott a monopoly supplier government run agency?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Amsterdam/Istanbul
    Posts
    12,462
    How don't you see it's another example of British incompetence? You guys had a bunch of crazies run away with a referendum over the future of your country on the basis of hunches, not facts.

    Immigrants became a problem for the UK after the referendum they weren't before. The whole mess also shows us that your home office is in total disregard for the actual law and the rights these people have.
    Congratulations America

  7. #7
    How don't you see that I believe all bureaucracies to be incompetent?

    I'd rather British incompetence than European incompetence, at least then we can hold people to account.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  8. #8
    Let sleeping tigers lie Khendraja'aro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    In the forests of the night
    Posts
    6,239
    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    How don't you see that I believe all bureaucracies to be incompetent?
    Oh, yes, anarchy is the better alternative all-around.
    When the stars threw down their spears
    And watered heaven with their tears:
    Did he smile his work to see?
    Did he who made the lamb make thee?

  9. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Amsterdam/Istanbul
    Posts
    12,462
    It's a policy choice on the side of the UK government to break the law. Saying that 'all bureaucracies are incompetent' is just a-grade bullshit. Typically uttered by people who've got no idea.

    In other news : Brexiteers angry about losing EU agencies, you can't make it up. (source)
    Congratulations America

  10. #10
    Bureaucrats being petty pedantic arseholes is not a policy choice. American bureaucrats think three month olds are terrorists.

    http://nypost.com/2017/04/16/baby-mi...hes-visa-form/
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  11. #11
    Who proposed anarchy. It's possible to believe bureaucracies are both inefficient and a necessary evil. Part of being a necessary evil is being evil. The first place as well as necessary.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  12. #12
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Amsterdam/Istanbul
    Posts
    12,462
    So basically you're talking out of your backside again.

    In other news; should be fun to see Mr De Pfeffel chucked out of his seat
    Congratulations America

  13. #13
    Senior Member Flixy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    The Netherlands
    Posts
    6,435
    I thought rand said early elections were not possible?

    Either way I think it's good to have them although less than 2 months seems rather soon.
    Keep on keepin' the beat alive!

  14. #14
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Amsterdam/Istanbul
    Posts
    12,462
    Quote Originally Posted by Flixy View Post
    I thought rand said early elections were not possible?

    Either way I think it's good to have them although less than 2 months seems rather soon.
    They are possible with the support of Labour, and Labour obviously doesn't mind being led to the slaughter so there will be elections. Otherwise this is the way Brits do elections; they call them and they have them. They don't want people to get informed during the campaign I guess. I wonder what the platform of the Conservative Party will contain about Brexit; for May to have any benefit from this elections she should destroy the Breximaniacs in her party.
    Congratulations America

  15. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Flixy View Post
    I thought rand said early elections were not possible?

    Either way I think it's good to have them although less than 2 months seems rather soon.
    Edit: apparently it needed a 2/3 vote in Parliament, and Labour is on board.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  16. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Flixy View Post
    I thought rand said early elections were not possible?

    Either way I think it's good to have them although less than 2 months seems rather soon.
    No quite the opposite. I've always maintained that except in a hung parliament the Fixed Term Parliament Act is fairly meaningless as any majority PM could just call an election and all opposition MPs would be honour bound to vote in favour of the early election. What is the alternative? Corbyn coming out and saying "I'm deeply unpopular in the polls and think I'm going to lose so no we'd rather you continue as PM actually". Once the PM has told the media there should be an election there realistically has to be one, except if there's a hung parliament and someone else could become PM instead.

    As for time, 5 to 6 weeks was always standard for the duration of our campaigns. I believe the FTPA requires six weeks.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  17. #17
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Amsterdam/Istanbul
    Posts
    12,462
    After the funny notion that the EBA and EMA could possibly stay in London after Brexit, the EU hasn't only poured water on this idea, but also has informed that it thinks the British government should pay for its re-location as part of the liabilities to be settled on the occasion of Brexit.
    Congratulations America

  18. #18
    That's a ridiculous suggestion. The EU's welcome to stay in London if they want (they have signed a long lease to do so), or welcome to leave if they want. That's entirely their choice. We're not liable for what they decide.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  19. #19
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Amsterdam/Istanbul
    Posts
    12,462
    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    That's a ridiculous suggestion. The EU's welcome to stay in London if they want (they have signed a long lease to do so), or welcome to leave if they want. That's entirely their choice. We're not liable for what they decide.
    Trying to blame Brexit on us I see. You break it you pay it.
    Congratulations America

  20. #20
    Nothing's broken, the building is as good as it was before and you are more than welcome to continue to be tenants of it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  21. #21
    Let sleeping tigers lie Khendraja'aro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    In the forests of the night
    Posts
    6,239
    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Nothing's broken, the building is as good as it was before and you are more than welcome to continue to be tenants of it.
    I see that you're kind of ignorant on who pays for what when a contract gets nullified by one party. Hint: It's not the contract-breakers who don't have to pay.

    Also: In which fantasy world of yours do any kind of governmental instutitions not reside in the countries they're responsible for? And, no, embassies don't count.
    When the stars threw down their spears
    And watered heaven with their tears:
    Did he smile his work to see?
    Did he who made the lamb make thee?

  22. #22
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Amsterdam/Istanbul
    Posts
    12,462
    I must say it would be absolutely lovely if the deal for citizens didn't just mean the same rights for EU citizens in the UK as they have now, but those rights on the basis of EU directives like today with the ECJ having jurisdiction. Taking back control wouldn't exactly be the way I describe that; being reduced to a client state would be more like it. Brexit is Brexit and we're gonna make a success of it
    Congratulations America

  23. #23
    Not going to happen.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  24. #24
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Amsterdam/Istanbul
    Posts
    12,462
    Well, maybe not if you vote UKIP. Otherwise I think it's perfectly possible
    Congratulations America

  25. #25
    Nor if you vote Tory. Nor if you vote for anyone sane.

    EU citizens will be subject to UK law however it evolves with maybe a legacy grandfathering for existing rights and obligations. Future evolutions in EU law will no more affect rights in the UK than future evolution of British law affected American or Australian or Irish laws post-independence.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  26. #26
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Amsterdam/Istanbul
    Posts
    12,462
    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Nor if you vote Tory. Nor if you vote for anyone sane.

    EU citizens will be subject to UK law however it evolves with maybe a legacy grandfathering for existing rights and obligations. Future evolutions in EU law will no more affect rights in the UK than future evolution of British law affected American or Australian or Irish laws post-independence.
    You're convincing yourself like the little engine that could aren't you? I'm afraid that our Brexit is going to be much more fun than yours.
    Congratulations America

  27. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    You're convincing yourself like the little engine that could aren't you? I'm afraid that our Brexit is going to be much more fun than yours.
    It's going to be a streaming pile of shit for everyone except Putin and ISIS. Not even comedians and satirists will have a good time.

    Also:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...officials.html

    Mrs Merkel is said to have told senior colleagues that Mr Trump misunderstood the basic facts about the EU and trade, asking her 10 times if he could work out a trade deal with Germany before finally getting the message he could negotiate only with the EU.
    Sounds familiar
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  28. #28
    Yes your imperial majesty, of course it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  29. #29
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Amsterdam/Istanbul
    Posts
    12,462
    Oops, and now you're not first in line for the US after all.
    Congratulations America

  30. #30
    And if you believe that you'll believe anything.

    In case you've forgotten my concern with the EU was not that it was not worth making a deal with, but it was unable to make one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •