Temperatures fluctuating 30-40 degrees in one day is what's extreme.Originally Posted by EyeKhan
Temperatures fluctuating 30-40 degrees in one day is what's extreme.
So it seems they were lucky with the flooding so far.
"Wer Visionen hat, sollte zum Arzt gehen." - Helmut Schmidt
California, and the southwestern US region, has been in the throngs of "extreme drought" for several years......but when they get much-needed rain it becomes a flood threat.
That's pretty typical of arid and semi-arid regions GGT. They don't get much rainfall and as a consequence they have a hard time absorbing it when they do get a good bit. Intuitive and sensible, really.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
What was so "sensible" about those regions building huge aqueducts to divert water to agriculture...when agricultural pursuits can't sustain the local economy or its labor force?
When push comes to shove, people want and need potable water, and they expect it from their home faucets whether it comes from a dug well or a municipal pipe line. When their home wells run dry, or their municipal tax for public water supply grows by leaps and bounds.....but they see golf courses or water parks or other tourism-based ventures using water indiscriminately, farms/agriculture aren't immune to the same criticism.
California is a huge contributor to the US economy, but they do so by borrowing, diverting, and subsidizing water as a commodity. Florida and Texas does the same thing, favoring citrus groves or oil fields over people's drinking water.
All states feel the impact when water is diverted to commercial ventures, at the expense of people's fresh, safe, drinking water. Extreme weather is just the tip of the iceberg...
PS, "extreme weather" always means water is involved.
Well that's neither but Las Vegas, Phoenix, LA, etc have nothing to do with your complaints about extreme weather.What was so "sensible" about those regions building huge aqueducts to divert water to agriculture...when agricultural pursuits can't sustain the local economy or its labor force?
Your free and constantly available tap water is actually less important than commercial ventures like agriculture.All states feel the impact when water is diverted to commercial ventures, at the expense of people's fresh, safe, drinking water. Extreme weather is just the tip of the iceberg...
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
Tap water is free?
Keep on keepin' the beat alive!
As far as GGT's approach to public policy is concerned, yes.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
Flixy, tap water is "free" to people using dug-wells. That means they only have to pay for digging the well and connecting pipes to their tap. Depending on the municipality (and how fees or taxes are structured for water and sewerage), they don't pay anything toward municipal/public water -- even if it's for the Fire Department that responds to their house fire and uses a public hydrant.
<Does anyone else recall a thread some years ago about "volunteer" Fire Departments using public water?>
Fuzzy, I've been consistent in saying that water-related policies can't be divorced from other policies. ie, pretty much everything. Whether it's fuel/energy, transportation, agriculture, housing or tourism -- water is key. And since water and weather are inextricable, making "good decisions" is important.
I don't object to "subsidizing" water for west coast agriculture, where they have to irrigate deserts in order to grow almonds or wine grapes or strawberries. I don't mind "subsidizing" water for Florida citrus, either.
But I do care if those states have such crappy infrastructure, plus poor planning....that every time there's a drought/flood/blizzard/hurricane (or whatever) they need federal emergency funds. If a large part of it goes toward re-building home swimming pools or private golf courses, it makes even less sense.
What you've been consistent in saying is that nothing can be divorced from anything. The price of potatoes in Poughkeepsie is intrinsically tied to the state of education in East Timr and both are absolutely integral to the immigration policies of Indonesia and the water table in Turkey.
Fuzzy, I've been consistent in saying that water-related policies can't be divorced from other policies. ie, pretty much everything. Whether it's fuel/energy, transportation, agriculture, housing or tourism -- water is key. And since water and weather are inextricable, making "good decisions" is important.
I don't object to "subsidizing" water for west coast agriculture, where they have to irrigate deserts in order to grow almonds or wine grapes or strawberries. I don't mind "subsidizing" water for Florida citrus, either.
But I do care if those states have such crappy infrastructure, plus poor planning....that every time there's a drought/flood/blizzard/hurricane (or whatever) they need federal emergency funds. If a large part of it goes toward re-building home swimming pools or private golf courses, it makes even less sense.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
Hey, don't blame me for the butterfly theory, or the small tail theory, or the black swan theory...or globalization in general....and I won't fault you for having a compartmentalized view of the world.
The problem is not that you think everything is connected to a degree. It is. The problem is that you think every one of those connections has a significant impact and that whichever pet hysteria you're espousing atm is crucial to every other thing being discussed. The butterfly does not create a hurricane across the world, it creates the briefest of gusts so minor that that children only imagine they feel it. If we were discussing the magnetic attraction between two objects, you'd insist we were neglecting the impact of each object's gravities in attracting them, because gravity is so important vis a vis you and the Earth.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
It's late December in south central PA, and hunters have been taking time off work to hunt.....but the weather is more like springtime, so who has the advantage when it comes to Extreme Weather?
Personally, I don't like these balmy temps and rain in December, even though my heating bills are lower. I'd rather have the chill and snow expected in PA as a snow state. That probably sounds weird to a lot of people who think warm is always better.
It "bugs" me that insects and parasites, and associated diseases, have a longer season. Anyone with seasonal allergies knows what I mean.....
A relative planned a week-long ski trip. The kids were looking forward to it. It's 68 degrees or something at the ski place right now. Whoops.
Damnable El Nino.
At least it isn't 69, that would be fucking hot.
It doesn't look good here either. No good snow under 2500 Meters
"Wer Visionen hat, sollte zum Arzt gehen." - Helmut Schmidt
Whereas the El Nino is saving the California ski resorts from bankruptcy.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
A frosty 80 here, but with 3 straight days of rain, which wouldn't be a problem if there was a drainage system and there wasn't a river nearby.
Hope is the denial of reality
84 today, 87 tomorrow. I'm used to christmas in shorts but for fucks sake come on!
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Unprecedented flooding in the US midwest....the harvest basket for the world.......
I've just moved to Preston (Lancashire, even further north England) and there has been terrible flooding here. I was speaking to a lady the other day whose entire village is now underwater.
I live on the marina now but it is an artificial man-made marina and we are not at risk personally but there has been records amounts of rain to the point that bridges have collapsed and entire parts of town are underwater.
Further north in Cumbria is suffering even worse.
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