How about €50 that on 30 March 2019 the UK is able to import those goods? I win if we are able to, you win if not. I'm sure the news will report somewhere online if we're not able to.Originally Posted by Khendraja'aro
How about €50 that on 30 March 2019 the UK is able to import those goods? I win if we are able to, you win if not. I'm sure the news will report somewhere online if we're not able to.
If you have an uncontrolled Brexit, Rand. THAT is what we're trying to get into your thick head - if you get a deal then that might work out fine. It also might not. And currently it's looking increasingly likely that you're headed for a trainwreck of epic proportions and getting access to medical isotopes will be the least of your problems.
It's also ironic that a Brexidiot wants to bet in Euro...
When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
No Randy, we have the regularory system. And what you will have is some national arrangement which may or may not be compliant. There is no automatic recognition in the absence of a deal.
And that is what you lot don't understand; you think we have this great repeal law so basically we're leaving from the same point. But the problem is that you are going to diverge and we can't sit on our hands while you make up your minds. We do laws, not custom. if our law says that compliance has to be established we can't just waive it and assume compliance has been established. And you want to consider entering in that stage without a deal. Hoping that after you've shafted us again, we're gonna give you all kinds of things you want just because you want it
Congratulations America
You will eventually be able to import those because you will either make all the necessary concessions, reverse the decision to leave EURATOM, or reverse brexit.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
More exceptions to karma urgently needed: http://www.falmouthpacket.co.uk/news...to_government/
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Sane policies needed. We had farming before we had free movement and that included migrant labour.
Given that your insanity makes it utterly unattractive even for poor EU citizens to work in agriculture in the UK that is rich coming from you.
Congratulations America
Why? Are they getting lower wages? Has our minimum wage suddenly stopped being dramatically higher than the wages available in other nations?
If so, it may be time to increase wages, but I don't think that is so.
Bizarre argument given that the UK has seen a significant & sustained decrease in the availability of seasonal farm laborers from the EU after the referendum, just as it has seen a sharp drop in applications for NHS positions, applications for jobs in finance, tech, academia, research etc. The UK's minimum wage is just one of several important variables workers consider.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Your currency dropped and the rest of the EU is doing better than you. Why would one jump on a sinking ship where the crew also has a bad attitude.
Congratulations America
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...0-exposed.html
Kinda disgraceful.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
They'll come, but not in sufficient numbers. But that's okay because Brits will be forced to do it and the demand for migrant labour will decrease to match the decrease in demand for British agricultural products (due to tariffs and other barriers). The market is wise.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
*thought bubble* I wonder if there's going to be a market for 'don't blame me, I voted remain' t-shirts in the next couple of years.
The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
No. Helmets & body armor.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Our currency dropped marginally within the realm of normal fluctuations in recent years, the rest of the EU is not doing better than us and our crew has a good attitude.
He said that is his preferred and likely outcome did he? Or did he say the exact opposite?
He did not call it a desirable outcome, but he stated it as a real life effect of your no-deal fantasy. That makes it pretty darn certain it will happen if you don’t come to reason pronto.
As for your currency; there was nothing regular about the drop after the Brexit vote and with the rest of Europe offering better options than jobs significantly below your level of education in the UK which pay 10% less than before the choice not to come is easily made.
I suggest you plow up your garden and start growing your own food.
I must say I really enjoy seeing your eurosceptic bullshit blowing up right in your face.
Congratulations America
Why no-deal fantasy of mine? I've said all along I want a deal.
The drop after the Brexit vote was entirely regular.
Nothing has blown up.
Yet.
When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
Possibly.
In Hazir's imaginary world it already has though.
Your representative has already said that he's not going to deliver. So hardly my fantasy if I state the deal isn't going to happen. We will not be talking about it till March 2018. Which leaves us 6 months for agreement. With the present uk government we could not make a deal about the question what color the sky is in six months..
Then again, maybe you have set your hopes on a Corbyn government.
Congratulations America
Source?
Source?We will not be talking about it till March 2018.
So it's all over the news today that May has accused Russia of meddling in elections and weaponising information through fake news and fake pictures.
I don't believe that Brexit ever would have happened without their fake social media accounts, untruths and fear-mongering.
I just feel sorry for the millions that were duped into it.
I highly doubt it made any difference if it even happened gogo. I'm highly political but still the only things I saw on Facebook were either from my real life friends or sponsored posts paid for by the official campaigns. I didn't see anything that could be Russian etc
That seems to be a bigger issue on Twitter which I don't use, but neither do most other people lurk on Twitter discussing politics. The idea millions were duped is absurd.
Yeah, they are pretty sneaky. They don't actually tell you they are a fake Russian accounts. They are easy to spot though e.g.
"THE EU IS UN-DEMOCRATIC. JUST LEAVE NOW"
"WE WANT OUR SOVEREIGNTY BACK"
"THE SIMPLE FACT IS THAT THE COUNTRY IS FULL. TAKE BACK CONTROL"
"ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF PEACE? YEAH RIGHT"
"TURKEY IS JOINING THE EU. WE SHOULD BE SCARED"
"WE HAVE OPEN BORDERS AND CAN'T CONTROL THEM. LEAVE NOW TO TAKE BACK CONTROL"
"WE GIVE EU BUREAUCRATS £350M A WEEK AND GET NOTHING BACK. LEAVE NOW AND INVEST IN THE NHS"
"DONALD TUSK IS EVIL"
"BRING BACK THE SPIRIT OF DUNKIRK!"
Same lines over and over and over again. Very clever, consistent messages targeted at both the already established Anti-EU and the undecided e.g. the old and uneducated (generally speaking).
Couldn't disagree more. I think that statement shows just how naive you are.
I admire your positivity; I really do; but you've got your head in the sand if you don't think the likes of Russia and the tax avoiding elite employed very clever and underhand tactics to ensure this one-in-a-lifetime opportunity wasn't seized upon.
What annoys me so much is that, for me, life has been good whilst we've been in the EU. My standard of living is excellent. I see the country prosper year after year (on trend). I see a largely united, multi cultural society in which my children can thrive in. I see absolutely no reason whatsoever to put all that at risk - and I know you're smart enough to admit that there's big risk attached to all this, and don't bother trying to tell me otherwise. Ultimately I'm convinced that my family and I will see no benefits whatsoever of Brexit. Instead, my children will grow up in a period of stagnation whilst the government, instead of focusing their time and effort in things that really matter - go up their own arseholes trying to do all the stuff the EU used to with us.
But who really benefits? Russia and the tax dodgers.
How much of that did you see on Facebook, I didn't. Except for the "sovereignty" or "£350mn a week" ones etc with a Vote Leave logo on them which were done in the UK. I saw a couple of anti-immigration Leave.EU ones too but again those were organised in the UK. The one I saw most of those was Remain ones again from the official campaign presumably because based on my age, education and other profile considerations I would have demographically been expected to lean Remain (as I originally did at the start of the campaign).
Where were you seeing these? Facebook shows me my friends posts and sponsored posts, it doesn't show random crappy ones like that unless you look for them so where were you and "millions duped" seeing them from?Same lines over and over and over again. Very clever, consistent messages targeted at both the already established Anti-EU and the undecided e.g. the old and uneducated (generally speaking).
Provide some actual evidence please.Couldn't disagree more. I think that statement shows just how naive you are.
I admire your positivity; I really do; but you've got your head in the sand if you don't think the likes of Russia and the tax avoiding elite employed very clever and underhand tactics to ensure this one-in-a-lifetime opportunity wasn't seized upon.
Of course there's risk at being like nations like Norway and Switzerland in being outside the EU but with a deal with it. Or there's risks at being like the nation I grew up in (Australia) completely outside and forming its own deals and allowing a higher level of immigration than we do inside the EU which I'd be perfectly content with.What annoys me so much is that, for me, life has been good whilst we've been in the EU. My standard of living is excellent. I see the country prosper year after year (on trend). I see a largely united, multi cultural society in which my children can thrive in. I see absolutely no reason whatsoever to put all that at risk - and I know you're smart enough to admit that there's big risk attached to all this, and don't bother trying to tell me otherwise. Ultimately I'm convinced that my family and I will see no benefits whatsoever of Brexit. Instead, my children will grow up in a period of stagnation whilst the government, instead of focusing their time and effort in things that really matter - go up their own arseholes trying to do all the stuff the EU used to with us.
But who really benefits? Russia and the tax dodgers.
One issue for me is that I grew up in Australia and I see no good reason why Aussie friends should be discriminated against compared to people who happen to be born thousands of miles away but still on our continent. Can you give me a good reason?
Strangely, I saw lots. This is purely anecdotal but it looks like you and I had very different experiences with what we heard and read across social media and comments on news sites.
It's a conspiracy theory. I already admitted that earlier in the thread. I'm not ashamed to admit it! I'd love to be wrong as it worries the darn heck out of me.
Maybe because there's questionable value in forming a close trading relationship with them? The logistics are horrible.
Perhaps lots of clever people performed a cost vs benefit analysis and determined that it just isn't a priority at the moment. Pretty simple really.
Do you genuinely think the EU are actively discriminating against the Aussies? How interesting!
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I don't read comments on news sites and I don't know anybody who isn't set in their views that does. I highly doubt anyone would swing their vote let alone millions swing their vote due to comments on news sites. Comments on news sites have always attracted the most extreme weirdos.
Why in the 21st century when the bulk of our trade and expertise for which logistics matter less than ever. There's a reason that a large proportion of our goods are manufactured in the far east and its not that they're closer logistically.Maybe because there's questionable value in forming a close trading relationship with them? The logistics are horrible.
Did you for even one second stop to think that other people have done the same and considered it to be a priority? Like myself?Perhaps lots of clever people performed a cost vs benefit analysis and determined that it just isn't a priority at the moment. Pretty simple really.
Yes absolutely. An unskilled, uneducation Romanian who doesn't speak English can get on a coach or plane to travel to the UK and start living and working here without a visa. Whereas a highly educated Australian like a teacher has to jump through all sorts of hoops and needs to get a visa. How is that fair or reasonable?Do you genuinely think the EU are actively discriminating against the Aussies? How interesting!
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-keep-fighting
Interesting subject-by-subject analysis on the state of negotiations and where they are likely to end up by Open Europe: http://brexitcentral.com/close-brexit-deal/
The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
Tried to meddle and successfully "duped" "millions" are two very different things!
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