According to NPR, its already fixed.Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...section=justin
BP fucks up again, and according to their own documents, we are looking at a week of up to 100,000 barrels a day spillage until they fix this.
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http://www.naturalnews.com/029074_se...of_Mexico.html
Can't believe BP is still trying the hush hush approach(NaturalNews) By now, almost everyone is aware of the out-of-control oil spill down in the Gulf of Mexico that seems to be getting exponentially worse with each passing day. But what people may not know is that BP's efforts to control the oil by burning it are actually burning alive a certain rare and endangered species of sea turtle.
For several weeks now, rescue crews have been feverishly trying to save Kemp's Ridleys sea turtles, as well as four other endangered varieties, from being caught in the oil corral areas that are being intentionally burned by BP, but according to Mike Ellis, one of the boat captains involved in the project, BP has now blocked all such rescue efforts from taking place.
"They ran us out of there and then they shut us down, they would not let us get back in there," he explained in an interview with Catherine Craig, a conservation biologist.
According to Dr. Brian Stacy, a veterinarian with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, there are five different endangered sea turtles living in the Gulf that are all at risk, but the type being found "dead or covered in oil" the most is the Kemp's Ridleys variety, which is the rarest species of them all.
So why would BP intentionally block rescue efforts aimed at protecting and saving wildlife and other endangered species from being burned alive in controlled burning pits? For starters, the Kemp's Ridleys sea turtle is listed in the Endangered Species Act, which means there are severe penalties for those who harm or kill them.
According to the law, harming or killing even one animal on the endangered species list can result in a fine of up to $50,000 and may include prison time. This means that the hundreds, or even thousands, of endangered sea turtles being burned alive by BP are going to cost the company a lot of money, not to mention the prison time its executives might have to serve.
At this point, it is difficult to determine exactly how many sea turtles are being, or have been, destroyed by BP because access to the pits has ceased, but crews are doing what they can to keep track of the animals they do know of to be sure that BP is held responsible in the end.
80% of Tropical Depression forming and entering the Gulf in the next 48 hours.
DRILL BABY DRILL!
Remind me the size (and amount) of your car(s), ACs, TVs, and computers. Yeah, that oil is being drilled for other people.
Hope is the denial of reality
You referring to my 32MPG Saturn (that I'm putting less than 7,000 miles a year on now), the single AC thats set at 80-81F, the TVs that are unplugged when not on, or the computer thats downclocked to 800mhz when I'm using it? All of which has been discussed previously in different threads.
The best part, this drilling mess wasn't even supplying us with any oil
Oil, let me introduce Pensacola. Pensacola, this is BP oil.
This is could be a very messy week...
Okay, look, killing endangered sea-turtles is not okay
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Unless you eat them.Okay, look, killing endangered sea-turtles is not okay
Such is Life...
BP Gives Unlimited Behind-the-Scenes Access to One Woman, Who Says BP's Response is Fake: Clean-Up Equipment Taken Away as Soon as Officials Leave
•BP is given advanced warning when an official is going to show up to any place where there is oil. All assets are deployed. As soon as the official leaves, 75-80% of the assets are removed. BP calls it a "pony and balloons" show.
•"We are expendable to these people. We do not matter."
•They're not cleaning it up, they're covering it up.
•BP is making it impossible for clean-up workers to wear respirators.
•She saw hundreds of thousands of fish dying, so disoriented by the oil that they crashed into her boat.
•There is a media blackout.
Scientist fuck over the Gulf again, show that clear water tests positive for oil and all its health concerns.
Also love this quote, they won't close the beach, but they will set up stations to help scrub the tar off after the fact
Fitzsimmons said he cannot make the call to close the beach. That's why he's having the decontamination stations set up, which are more sophisticated than the wash stations the Island Authority recently set up, he said.
"The (cleaning) material is in a package form that will more greatly assist removing tar balls from the bottom of feet and hands," he said. "Our plan is to assist the health department and island authority to make it easier to manage this situation."
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Seems if you're coming out of the water with tarballs on your feet that maybe you ought not be swimming there.
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Honestly it sounds like a crooked way to reduce accountability. If the beaches aren't officially closed, thats one more hurdle the local businesses have to jump before they can go after BP for compensation.
Who's protecting BP by not closing the beaches? The local governments? Why would they do that?
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From the article, appears the decision was down to the one guy at the head of the health department. Claiming you can't predict the wind
Please tell me you're joking and not trying to suggest conspiracy here. You know as well as I that whether or not they are or will be going after BP, the local businesses would be strongly opposed to closing the beach *and their standard revenue streams* and would howl loudly about it.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
Yeah, like with the shark in Jaws.
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I think OG meant to take aim at the technicality that Bp would most likely exploit. Just as any insurance company would do to reduce liability.
The beaches remained opened. The various agencies in charge of public health and safety never closed the beaches, which means it was business as usual. Therefore, you can't say that your business was hurt by bp. Claim denied.
Refresh. I think constantly televising the underwater volcano might lead to viewers being de-sensitized. After 70 days of that ugly pluming shown in the corner of the screen, or behind people being interviewed, it might be like the bottom-screen-scrolling news updates or NYSTE ticker tape, and we just block it out.
Double post. Spammer.
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The bay area is reporting a drop in business of over 50%. The bay area, where no oil has reached yet. The coastal businesses in the oiled ares aren't even attempting to claim a closed beach is bad for business, because there is no business to complain about.
The Jaws reference is retarded. On one hand you have a fishing boat of nutjobs talking about a possible crazed shark, on the other you have physical confirmation of a serious health hazard.
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Thanks, I'm glad you found it funny. But I do recall in the story the local business owners were pressuring the mayor to keep the beach open, even though evidence was mounting that a shark was eating swimmers.Same thing, innit? Huh? INNIT!?!
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Not as strong as the one below, but still a nice cover from The New Yorker.
Holy crap, that's that Vietnamese summary execution. Nice. Sort of extreme though, don't you think?
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Does OG ever think something going in the same direction as him is extreme?
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
I'm assuming you're not expecting an answer, but I will anyway: I honestly don't know.
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Did BP and the EPA screw over gulf coast residents by telling the Dutch to fuck off?
Some are attuned to the possibility of looming catastrophe and know how to head it off. Others are unprepared for risk and even unable to get their priorities straight when risk turns to reality.
The Dutch fall into the first group. Three days after the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico began on April 20, the Netherlands offered the U.S. government ships equipped to handle a major spill, one much larger than the BP spill that then appeared to be underway. "Our system can handle 400 cubic metres per hour," Weird Koops, the chairman of Spill Response Group Holland, told Radio Netherlands Worldwide, giving each Dutch ship more cleanup capacity than all the ships that the U.S. was then employing in the Gulf to combat the spill.
To protect against the possibility that its equipment wouldn't capture all the oil gushing from the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico, the Dutch also offered to prepare for the U.S. a contingency plan to protect Louisiana's marshlands with sand barriers. One Dutch research institute specializing in deltas, coastal areas and rivers, in fact, developed a strategy to begin building 60-mile-long sand dikes within three weeks.
Last edited by Ominous Gamer; 06-30-2010 at 05:15 PM.
You'd think they could manage a waiver of environmental laws, because in this case 99% clean water is obviously better than what is floating around now..
Keep on keepin' the beat alive!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38018204...ience-science/Mighty Mississippi could fight oil slick
Plan calls for U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to open concrete gates
Oil has hit the fragile Gulf coast wetlands. To fight it, the mighty Mississippi River must get even mightier, scientists suggest.
The battle plan is simple: Open the floodgates on the Mississippi River leg that runs through New Orleans and the rushing water will block the BP Deepwater Horizon oil gusher from harming the delta wetlands further.
"The Mississippi River's plumbing provides a potential benefit to reducing the movement of oil onshore from shelf waters," said coastal wetlands ecologist Robert Twilley of Louisiana State University, who supports the plan.
The plan, backed by researchers at LSU and the National Audubon Society, calls for the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to open concrete gates built within the river's levees about 315 miles (507 kilometers) upriver from the Gulf of Mexico. In theory, this would release enough water to wash away the gunk that is approaching from the Gulf. The extra flow could also flush out the oil that has reached coastal wetlands such as the Wax Lake Delta at the mouth of the Mississippi.
The Old River Control Structure, as the river's plumbing is called, routes about 70 percent of the Mississippi River through New Orleans, and 30 percent to the nearby Atchafalaya River.
The Mississippi River's stream stage, a measurement of water height above the river bed, is as high as 42 feet (13 m) near the Old River Control Structure, which is relatively high. The plan recommends shifting the water flow to send up to 81 percent of the river through New Orleans to beat back the oil.
Even if the Corps doesn't approve the plan, the river may be able to fight off some of the oil on its own.
"Since the Mississippi River is currently at a relatively high stage, we expect the river's high volume of freshwater to act as a hydrologic barrier, keeping oil from moving into the Wax Lake Delta from the sea," Twilley said.
Oil has penetrated only a few yards into the wetlands and is spotty, according to an Associated Press report. The LSU researchers are documenting the health of plants and soils in the Wax Lake Delta so that they can measure the oil's impact. Twilley and colleagues are also studying how freshwater and saltwater Louisiana wetlands break down the oil.
Without oil contamination, the future was already bleak for the Gulf coast wetlands, which make up nearly 40 percent of the wetlands in the continental United States. In Louisiana alone, more than 1 million acres (4,047 square km) of coastal wetlands have disappeared over the last 75 years, and erosion washes away the equivalent of 30 football fields of wetlands every day, according to the National Audubon Society's Louisiana Coastal Initiative. With the added oil, the mouth of the Mississippi River, which is already the largest dead zone in the U.S., could get even larger.
Louisiana wetlands "play a vital role in protecting New Orleans from hurricane damage, providing habitat for wildlife, supporting economically important fisheries, and maintaining water quality," said Efi Foufoula-Georgiou of the National Center for Earth-Surface Dynamics (NCED) at the University of Minnesota. "We must look at all options for protecting them for the future."
Does anyone know why the Corps wouldn't approve this plan?
I had fun on my trip last week seeing massive lines at a Shell station across the highway from a sparsely used BP station. Futility, but at least people cared. About half of the vehicles were SUVs.
Morons.
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