The Clinton connection is bunk. Higher tax rates did not lead to a strong economy. The INTERNET did. Plus NAFTA and Welfare reform were two key items that we can give Clinton and the Republican legislature for.Originally Posted by GGT
The Clinton connection is bunk. Higher tax rates did not lead to a strong economy. The INTERNET did. Plus NAFTA and Welfare reform were two key items that we can give Clinton and the Republican legislature for.
The point is that higher tax rates don't cause an economy to weaken. Especially when those "higher" tax rates mean an effective change less than 4%....for upper income folks.
I can't really think of many secular approaches in which abortion would have to be illegal. Of course secular societies may want to keep women down as much as religious ones do, but it's not exactly one of their core ideals.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
I love this photo.
"Let's do this, motherfucker"
It's fantastic poster-material, and Ryan looks like he's about to wet his pants. And also like he's Adrien Brody
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
How bad is it when you can't even fake charity work without pissing someone off?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...chen-photo-op/
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
See the update. Democrat complains about Republicans shocker
I watched that video and don't see anyone getting upset, in fact it all seems to be organised and polite and friendly while half-way through when he's asking for the brush somebody points it out it seems. Seriously that's the best you've got?
EDIT - even better they did ask for permission, just someone who wasn't even there is getting their knickers in a twist.
According to a Romney aide not authorized to speak publicly about the event, the campaign followed its usual protocol for impromptu, on-the-road stops by candidates: A staffer was dispatched to the St. Vincent De Paul Society ahead of Ryan’s visit Saturday morning and spoke with a woman in charge on site, who said that it would be fine for the congressman to stop by. The campaign did not contact Antal ahead of the visit.
The woman on site told the Romney staffer that some of the volunteers had already left, but that most were happy to remain until Ryan arrived, according to the aide. After Ryan left the soup kitchen, the woman approached a campaign staffer and expressed gratitude for Ryan’s visit, the aide said.
When you have no hope of winning on the issues, you start whining about Big Bird, or "rigged" election polls, or this crap. And fanboys like OG eat it up. I doubt it persuades a single independent voter to change their mind though.
Hope is the denial of reality
OG was never going to vote for Ryan though in the first place was he? He's about as much an independent as the "self-described" one quoted in the article.
I'm pretty sure he has an allergic reaction to the letter "R".
Hope is the denial of reality
Saw this elsewhere though no link was provided then so don't know if its genuine or not. Either way whoever wrote it, I agree with much but not all of it.
Ross Perot endorses Romney
Our country faces a momentous choice. The fact is the United States is on an unsustainable course. At stake is nothing less than our position in the world, our standard of living at home and our constitutional freedoms.
That is why I am endorsing Mitt Romney for president. We can’t afford four more years in which debt mushrooms out of control, our government grows and our military is weakened.
For the past four years, we have squandered one opportunity after the next to turn things around. The longer we delay acting, the steeper the price we will have to pay.
Let’s look at the country as it is now.
The American economy is stagnant. Economic growth is insufficient to create enough jobs for a country whose population is growing. The result is unemployment stuck over 8 percent for every single month of Barack Obama’s presidency. We have 23 million Americans who are looking for work and either can’t find a full-time job, can’t find a job at all, or who have given up looking. That is wrong. It’s not the way America ought to be.
At the same time, and not unrelated, is the extraordinary explosion of federal deficits and federal debt. In the last four years during Obama’s presidency, he’s added around $5 trillion to our national debt, more than any previous president. This was accomplished by successive federal budgets that each ran deficits exceeding $1 trillion a year. It is this massive deficit spending that threatens to undermine our future standard of living. To pay for our government’s massive debts, Washington’s profligacy, our children and grandchildren will be paying interest and principal on the nation’s debt for untold years into the future. That is wrong. It’s not the way America ought to be.
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
Good writing from him
In other news Obama is excited to participate in the first debate tonight
On that note... http://www.romneytaxplan.com/In other news Obama is excited to participate in the first debate tonight
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
Why the hell was he washing already clean dishes? Why would you think that would be considered a good thing? Wasting water that the soup kitchen has to pay for, good job buddy.I think just a tour of the kitchen would have been a sufficient photo op. Or here's a good idea: show up when there are actual people in the building! I'm guessing a staffer didn't do their homework on what time to be there.
He didn't even wash them correctly. Once he was done "watering" them, someone had to go behind him and wash them a 3rd time.
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
Ya, I was thinking that. I worked in food service before, and I'm going to assume soup kitchens follow the same rules that the Health Dept sets for restaurants: Soap then water then disinfectant rinse. I wasn't going to nitpick about it since I'm sure even if they were dirty to begin with, the staff would probably rewash them to be on the safe side.
Same here, but then again the soup kitchen supervisor said she was happy for the free publicity of Ryan drawing attention to the soup kitchen. I think that mattered far more to her than how the dishes were washed.
Funny how people with different views see it differently. I don't see Ryan as scared at all, they both look angry and look like they let rip a really ugly fart but are trying to pretend it wasn't them.
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Obama administration gives $250 million in loans from 2009 "stimulus" to a long-struggling electric battery maker. Battery maker uses half of the money to build a plant for automotive batteries in Michigan, a stronghold of the United Auto Workers union. Battery maker files for bankruptcy, barely selling factory along with the filing.
One hates to see a company go bankrupt, but hard to find such great examples of the failure of Obama's ideas.
BUSINESS Updated October 16, 2012, 12:34 p.m. ET
Battery Maker A123 Files for Chapter 11 Protection
By PATRICK FITZGERALD
Electric-car-battery manufacturer A123 Systems Inc., the recipient of nearly $250 million in government grants, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection Tuesday with a plan to sell its auto-business assets to auto-parts maker Johnson Controls Inc.
The Waltham, Mass., company and two affiliates sought creditor protection in the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Wilmington, Del., a day after it said it would be unable to make a $2.8 million interest payment to bondholders due Monday. Those bondholders, owed $143.8 million plus interest, are listed as the battery maker's largest unsecured creditor.
The Johnson Controls deal is valued at $125 million, and the sale is subject to higher offers at a bankruptcy auction. Johnson Controls is providing the company with $72.5 million in so-called debtor-in-possession financing to fund the bankruptcy case.
A123's auto business fits with Johnson Controls' "long-term growth strategies and overall commitment to the development of the advanced battery industry," Johnson Controls Power Solutions President Alex Molinaroli said in a statement.
Johnson Controls, based in Milwaukee, is one of the largest auto-parts makers in the world and is the single largest maker of standard automotive batteries. It has been expanding its operations in advanced lithium-ion batteries and has built a plant in Holland, Mich. It counts Daimler AG and BMW AG as customers.
Investment bank Lazard Freres & Co. has been shopping A123 for months, but according to court filings only the U.S. unit of Chinese auto-parts maker Wanxiang Group Corp. made an offer that would keep the company in business.
In August, A123 Systems entered into a $75 million loan deal with the U.S. unit of Wanxiang Group as part of a proposed $465 million investment deal. But because certain closing conditions, including A123's liquidity falling below operational levels, didn't occur, only the $75 million loan was funded.
"We determined not to move forward with the previously announced Wanxiang agreement as a result of unanticipated and significant challenges to its completion," said A123 Chief Executive David Vieau in a statement.
Pin Ni, Wanxiang America's president, couldn't be reached to comment.
In a bid to jumpstart the electric-car-battery industry, the U.S. government has provided more than $1.2 billion to battery makers in the past three years. But the industry has been slow to take off. Another battery maker, Ener1 Inc., which also received a government grant, filed for Chapter 11 protection earlier this year.
The Department of Energy awarded A123 $249 million in grants, about half of which the company has used to pay for some of the costs of building a factory in Livonia, Mich.
A123 has suffered losses since its inception in 2001. Its market capitalization has dropped to around $162 million from $1.6 billion at the end of 2009, a few months after its public listing of shares.
The company's balance sheet took a hit last year from charges related to its investment in electric-car maker Fisker Automotive Inc. and capacity reduction in South Korea. Adding to its troubles, the company in late March said it expected to spend at least $55 million in coming quarters on a recall of defective batteries.
Latham & Watkins is representing A123 in its bankruptcy case. The company listed assets of $459.8 million and debts of $376 million in its Chapter 11 petition.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...271656440.html
Obama brought the anger tonight, wow. romney really dropped the ball on that libya window. Curious how people tomorrow are going to balance romney's rudeness against biden's
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
Why do I get the feeling that if Obama called for the nuking of Florida, you'd find a way to defend him?
Hope is the denial of reality
Hell that's easy. OG hates all sorts of things coming out of Florida, remember?
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
throw in Lewk's thread, and I was not dissappointed.When you have no hope of winning on the issues, you start whining
Hey, look at that, Fox News is already working to hide the gun control portion of the debate. Compare that to the real transcript.
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
I see the gun control portion of the debate in both. What am I supposed to be looking for?
In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.
Looks like they fixed it shortly after it started getting attention. The original portion that Fox was missing is below. At this point they have removed the "audio gap" thats still listed in the CNN transcript, and was generally being passed around as the point of reference for how to find what Fox was missing.
CROWLEY: Governor Romney, the question is about assault weapons, AK-47s.
ROMNEY: Yeah, I'm not in favor of new pieces of legislation on – on guns and taking guns away or making certain guns illegal. We, of course, don't want to have automatic weapons, and that's already illegal in this country to have automatic weapons. What I believe is we have to do, as the president mentioned towards the end of his remarks there, which is to make enormous efforts to enforce the gun laws that we have, and to change the culture of violence that we have.
And you ask how - how are we going to do that? And there are a number of things. He mentioned good schools. I totally agree. We were able to drive our schools to be number one in the nation in my state. And I believe if we do a better job in education, we'll – we'll give people the - the hope and opportunity they deserve and perhaps less violence from that. But let me mention another thing. And that is parents. We need moms and dads, helping to raise kids. Wherever possible the - the benefit of having two parents in the home, and that's not always possible. A lot of great single moms, single dads. But gosh to tell our kids that before they have babies, they ought to think about getting married to someone, that's a great idea.
Because if there's a two parent family, the prospect of living in poverty goes down dramatically. The opportunities that the child will – will be able to achieve increase dramatically. So we can make changes in the way our culture works to help bring people away from violence and give them opportunity, and bring them in the American system. The - the greatest failure we've had with regards to - to gun violence in some respects is what - what is known as Fast and Furious. Which was a program under this administration, and how it worked exactly I think we don't know precisely, where thousands of automatic, and AK-47 type weapons were - were given to people that ultimately gave them to - to drug lords.
They used those weapons against - against their own citizens and killed Americans with them. And this was a - this was a program of the government. For what purpose it was put in place, I can't imagine. But it's one of the great tragedies related to violence in our society which has occurred during this administration. Which I think the American people would like to understand fully, it's been investigated to a degree, but - but the administration has carried out executive privilege to prevent all of the information from coming out.
I'd like to understand who it was that did this, what the idea was behind it, why it led to the violence, thousands of guns going to Mexican drug lords. OBAMA: Candy?
CROWLEY: Governor, Governor, if I could, the question was about these assault weapons that once were once banned and are no longer banned.
I know that you signed an assault weapons ban when you were in Massachusetts, obviously, with this question, you no longer do support that. Why is that, given the kind of violence that we see sometimes with these mass killings? Why is it that you have changed your mind?
ROMNEY: Well, Candy, actually, in my state, the pro-gun folks and the anti-gun folks came together and put together a piece of legislation. And it's referred to as an assault weapon ban, but it had, at the signing of the bill, both the pro-gun and the anti-gun people came together, because it provided opportunities for both that both wanted.
There were hunting opportunities, for instance, that haven't previously been available and so forth, so it was a mutually agreed- upon piece of legislation. That's what we need more of, Candy. What we have right now in Washington is a place that's gridlocked.
CROWLEY: So I could - if you could get people to agree to it, you would be for it?
ROMNEY: We have –
OBAMA: Candy?
ROMNEY: - we haven't had the leadership in Washington to work on a bipartisan basis. I was able to do that in my state and bring these two together.
CROWLEY: Quickly, Mr. President.
OBAMA: The - first of all, I think Governor Romney was for an assault weapons ban before he was against it. And he said that the reason he changed his mind was, in part, because he was seeking the endorsement of the National Rifle Association. So that's on the record.
But I think that one area we agree on is the important of parents and the importance of schools, because I do believe that if our young people have opportunity, then they are less likely to engage in these kinds of violent acts. We're not going to eliminate everybody who is mentally disturbed and we have got to make sure they don't get weapons.
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
Oh great, another lieberal has put up a whining site featuring fictional creatures, why can't the discussion be about real issues
In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.
Insidious.
Jewish conspiracy to control America
In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.
I didn't even know there was a Jewish super PAC, or how W. Kamau Bell ranting about global warming is a uniquely Jewish issue.
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