Inception

[']['ear]

1) There are two industries that marketing has more than earned its keep. Movie theaters, and diamonds.
2) For anyone considered a movie fan (lets say once a month), staying in comes out cheaper way before most extended warranty plans run out. At least for an American family when an average ticket is > $10, and 3D prices are toying with $20. This also ties in to how staying at home allows you easier access to more of a selection, especially indies or controversial subjects.

1) I won't argue with you, since I see 95% of movies pointless wrt theaters (though there's a vintage theater in town that runs old classics for $3 a head, and seeing Casablanca on the big screen was awesome.) But conflating them with the diamond industry is some serious hyperbole. The diamond industry is FAR worse than theaters.
2) But theaters, after all, provide a relatively unique product, one that those few with home theaters still can't quite match. Also, most Americans would be idiots to spend that much on a home theater. They just don't have it financially. Neither here nor there, since watching a DVD on a normal TV is fine for the large majority of movies.

[Nessus]

['ear] They just don't have it financially.

Have you met any American consumers?

[Dattu]

I saw Inception a few hours ago. It was wonderful.

[Supermarioman]

This looks super great, but I'm likely going to miss seeing it in theaters since I want to save this free movie ticket I have to see Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World.
Curse my lack of money.

[GGT]

I saw it with my son. He loved it, I liked it. Reminded us both a bit of Shutter Island, or Matrix.

I admit---it was a bit confusing for me in spots, especially the locked totem. Or whose dream it was, how many levels. Visually it was quite nice. The music didn't grab me, though (in fact I can't recall it at all now), and there was an element of "hokey" in the dream sharing process. They could have done a better job at explaining that somehow. Michael Caine's role was almost useless and out of left field, I would have liked to see him in the film more, with a beefier role.

Ellen Page is adorable.

[Odelogum]

I just saw Inception a couple hours ago.

Let me just say.. wow. It's totally amazing. A captivating, thrilling, thought-provoking, sometimes confusing movie that go me on the edge of my seat. And yep, it felt very long at points, but by the end it was all worth it. You shouldn't bother trying to read a spoiler of the movie, because when I tried to, it seemed like spaghetti, so I just watched the movie. I completely get it now. And it was beautiful.

When I saw the trailer, I felt like it was going to be epic. Sort of. Some of the special effect heavy parts that were shown in the trailer seemed useless, but after watching the movie it all makes perfect sense, like when Paris literally flipped over on itself. It really makes you think about stuff, like dreams and your mind. And it got some of those dream rules that work in real life too: For example, like how you wake up from a dream by a sensation of 'falling', and if you die in a dream, you merely wake up.

It was an awesome, epic movie that is worth seeing again (mainly because you probably won't get it and you have to watch it again to keep your knowledge up. ) But seriously, you should really watch it in theaters. Another masterpiece from Christopher Nolan.

[Ominous Gamer]

#1 in the box office. wonder if it can hold by bringing people back who want to try to catch what they didn't connect the first time.

[Draco]

I hope to see it this weekend I've heard nothing but positive comments about the movie. Last i checked it's some 9/10 points on IMDB.

[Lor]

Reminded us both a bit of Shutter Island

Oh don't even mention that film, i felt the plot/twist was far to obvious and therefore ruined the movie for me. Even 'Mrs Lor to be one day' was left disappointed and she's usually quite open to films.

[Dattu]

I saw it with my son. He loved it, I liked it. Reminded us both a bit of Shutter Island, or Matrix.

I admit---it was a bit confusing for me in spots, especially the locked totem. Or whose dream it was, how many levels. Visually it was quite nice. The music didn't grab me, though (in fact I can't recall it at all now), and there was an element of "hokey" in the dream sharing process. They could have done a better job at explaining that somehow. Michael Caine's role was almost useless and out of left field, I would have liked to see him in the film more, with a beefier role.

Ellen Page is adorable.

Spoiler:

My understanding is that Mal locked her totem in the safe so she would no longer be tempted to use it on a whim. As a result of losing that connection to reality, she came to believe that Limbo was the real world. Cobb broke into the safe and set the top in motion so that next time she saw it, she would be forced to recognize that she's in a dream state. I don't know what got her to open the safe in the first place, but her "discovery" had the immediate consequence that she realized she and Cobb weren't living in the real world, and they should probably return (with a train suicide). Unintended consequence: Cobb unwittingly planted an idea in her head (inception) that she was never in the real world even after returning. When she committed suicide, she was trying to go up another level, so to say. The reason why Cobb has a manic obsession with her intruding his thoughts (besides the fact that they loved each other) is that in Limbo, they had spent over a lifetime together.

Probably too much explanation.

[Angel_Mapper]

My god that was awesome.

[Draco]

Inception was f'ing awesome. Easily the best movie I have ever seen, only Matrix comes close.

It has everything that makes a movie top quality. It's number 3 on IMDB and it's well deserved.

[Ziggy Stardust]

I wouldn't be surprised if Flixy and/or Ziggy have got the same card.

I haven't. I only go to the theater for visual spectacles with little story in it. I get distracted quite easily.

Movies with great stories I rather watch at home.

[GGT]

Dattu, I meant what about HIS totem? We never saw it....it was always hers.

[Hazir]

Dattu, I meant what about HIS totem? We never saw it....it was always hers.

Yeah well, that was one of the confusing things. What didn't make sense to me was the wounds of Saito carrying over into the next level. The ending wasn't reality was it? Judging from the number of stuffed animals on the sideboard he'd not seen his children for a long time. Yet they looked exactly the same and wore the same clothes as in the memory. I don't know about the girl, but I can't believe a boy that age would still fit in the same clothes after a longer period. Maybe he started to believe in his own ideas about reality?

[Hazir]

Yeah well, that was one of the confusing things. What didn't make sense to me was the wounds of Saito carrying over into the next level. The ending wasn't reality was it? Judging from the number of stuffed animals on the sideboard he'd not seen his children for a long time. Yet they looked exactly the same and wore the same clothes as in the memory. I don't know about the girl, but I can't believe a boy that age would still fit in the same clothes after a longer period. Maybe he started to believe in his own ideas about reality?

Oh my God !!! I just realise I am the victim of inception; I am thinking about whether or not there was any level of reality in this movie or that it were all dreams.

[GGT]

Oh my God !!! I just realise I am the victim of inception; I am thinking about whether or not there was any level of reality in this movie or that it were all dreams.

Exactly. The time warp with the kids not aging, like the opening/ending scene where he washes up on shore. One can age in limbo, but be retrieved and returned to the present?

[Dattu]

Prologue about the events leading up to Cobb and co. dreamsharing with Saito!

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/inception-comic.html

[']['ear]

Have you met any American consumers?

Yes indeed, which is why I made the comment. Massive plasma TVs to fit in the McMansions with huge SUVs or pickups in the driveway summarizes our current financial troubles.

I've heard very good things about inception from reviewers I respect. I may need to go see it. The case could always be made with Memento that it was just a particularly intriguing gimmick, and not great film making (sort of how Kevin Costner was perfect for Bull Durham, but turned out to be a fairly mediocre actor). Maybe there's more to this guy.

[Hazir]

Maybe I should see it again.

[Dreadnaught]

Movie theater in my neighborhood has cheap early shows. Going to see it in a bit.

[Dreadnaught]

That was great. RE the ending:

Spoiler:

I agree, the ending was probably a dream. But I'm not convinced he couldn't get out of it. Remember, limbo can seemingly last for decades. Which would in theory give him time to re-discover the top and spin it again to check if it's real.

[Loki]

Spoiler:

The dream would have to be his father-in-law's for the latter to be there and play such a prominent role, no?

Edit: Unless it's not really his father-in-law, but rather the thief from his group.

[Hazir]

He could have been a projection.

[Illusions]

Spoiler:

The ending had to be reality because there is no alternative, because Mal isn't there. This means she really did commit suicide, because if she had just gone up to a higher level of the dream, or broken out into reality, then she would've likely gone back in to retrieve him, or someone else would have gone in to do so. If he was trapped in the layered dream created for the Fischer job however, one of his team mates would've gone in to retrieve him like they did for Seito.

As for why the children don't look that old, it is because not that much time has passed between when Cobb's wife had died and the current time. When they showed the team prepping for the Fischer job, it looks as if they do most of their planning/training for a potential job inside of a dream, to take advantage of the accelerated timeframe in there. I'd assume that they used the same methodology for any of their other past jobs, so while they may act like they've known each other for years, and spent a lot of time on the job together, it might only be a year or two since Mal's death in reality.

[Loki]

Spoiler:

Mal might be "dead" because Cobb got over her. He hasn't gotten over his children, which explains why they'd be in that scene.

[Illusions]

Spoiler:

Mal might be "dead" because Cobb got over her. He hasn't gotten over his children, which explains why they'd be in that scene.

Spoiler:

Mal would have to truly be dead then, because with the dream-share machine you don't get to have a choice in whether a living person can enter into your dream or not, they can force themselves in.

[Hazir]

Spoiler:

The ending had to be reality because there is no alternative, because Mal isn't there. This means she really did commit suicide, because if she had just gone up to a higher level of the dream, or broken out into reality, then she would've likely gone back in to retrieve him, or someone else would have gone in to do so. If he was trapped in the layered dream created for the Fischer job however, one of his team mates would've gone in to retrieve him like they did for Seito.

As for why the children don't look that old, it is because not that much time has passed between when Cobb's wife had died and the current time. When they showed the team prepping for the Fischer job, it looks as if they do most of their planning/training for a potential job inside of a dream, to take advantage of the accelerated timeframe in there. I'd assume that they used the same methodology for any of their other past jobs, so while they may act like they've known each other for years, and spent a lot of time on the job together, it might only be a year or two since Mal's death in reality.

The number of stuffed animals on the sideboard tell us otherwise. Even if granddad traveled to the US once a month Cobb has been away for at least a year since he had to escape.

[Wraith]

Just saw it. It was pretty good.

Spoiler:

If it was a dream at the end though, whose dream was it?

[GGT]

Spoiler:

Cobb's dream. He had Mal's totem the whole time, but never his own. His kids didn't age. Neither did Michael Caine. All the projections were his, trying to find a way to deal with his wife's suicide. Because he felt responsible or guilty.

I think?

Is it true that at the end credits you can hear Mal's totem stop spinning and fall over?