FBI blasts Apple, Google for locking police out of phones

[Khendraja'aro]

I'm a bit dubious on the practicability of including such a chip on a smartphone. Not to mention that those are not invulnerable as well.

[earthJoker]

I'm a bit dubious on the practicability of including such a chip on a smartphone.

If you charge extra for this version, why not? People also pay the extra price tag for iPhones.

Not to mention that those are not invulnerable as well.

Nothing is invulnerable, it's about rising the bar.

[Ominous Gamer]

And hardware based encryption helps you exactly how against that type of attack?

Its explained in the white paper when they moved over to hardware based encryption. Whatever they are doing, without the pin its pretty much impossible to read the key from memory.

[earthJoker]

Memory is a broad term. The thing is, the key never goes into RAM.

[katsung47]

That's just a gimmick of sales.

[earthJoker]

US spying scandal will 'break the Internet,' says Google's Schmidt
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The impact is "severe and is getting worse," Schmidt said. "We're going to wind up breaking the Internet."

Also on the panel with Schmidt was Microsoft General Counsel Brad Smith, another critic who became more outspoken of government surveillance after Edward Snowden leaked National Security Agency documents in 2013 that showed a much wider federal spying apparatus than previously believed.

"Just as people won't put their money in a bank they won't trust, people won't use an Internet they won't trust," Smith said.

Panelist Ramsey Homsany, general counsel for online storage company Dropbox, said the trust between customers and businesses that is at the core of the Internet's economic engine has begun to "rot it from the inside out."

"The trust element is extremely insidious," Homsany said. "It's about personal emails, it's about photos, it's about plans, it's about medical records."
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Part of reclaiming leadership in the digital economy since the Snowden document leaks has been efforts by tech companies to encrypt user data to protect it. Facebook has used its leverage to help convince tech companies to implement tougher webmail encryption standards, while Google and Yahoo are seeking to push the envelope of how encryption can safeguard webmail.

Panelist Colin Stretch, general counsel for Facebook, called efforts to encrypt user data "a key business objective of all of us."

"I'd be fundamentally surprised if anybody takes the foot off the pedal of building encryption into their products," he said.

http://www.cnet.com/news/us-spying-s...ogles-schmidt/

[Being]

There is always a back door...always. Remove and destroy sim when asked by authorities to hand over your phone. It's really easy.

[earthJoker]

Remove and destroy sim when asked by authorities to hand over your phone. It's really easy.

And what should that be good for?

[Being]

Without the sim there is no data to encrypt. I guess I should have added fold it in half.

[Khendraja'aro]

Without the sim there is no data to encrypt. I guess I should have added fold it in half.

Wut?

[Flixy]

How old is your phone? Mine works perfectly and has all the data when you start it up without the sim card, or with a different one. Useful when you travel abroad, change the sim to a local one and you can keep using your phone as usual.

[Khendraja'aro]

The sim card never held any information besides the login data for the carrier and a rudimentary, limited address book.

[earthJoker]

Without the sim there is no data to encrypt. I guess I should have added fold it in half.

I think you mean SD card, which may hold the data you want to destroy. But there is a great chance you got a lot of data on your internal flash.

[Flixy]

Plus simply deleting stuff on an sd card isn't going to stop a forensic expert, even if you bend it.

[earthJoker]

Better make sure they'll never find it.