The French bring things to a screeching halt all the frigging time. Look at Paris at the moment, the gilets jaunes are having more of a real-world negative impact on the running of a nation than Brexit ever will.
The French bring things to a screeching halt all the frigging time. Look at Paris at the moment, the gilets jaunes are having more of a real-world negative impact on the running of a nation than Brexit ever will.
Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer
Oh, you'll get exactly that. Just amplified at an exponential rate.
Those jokes are largely concentrated in Paris now. You'll have fun all over the country.
When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
This is a gross albeit hilarious exaggeration of the impact of the yellow vests.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Burning cars is afterall a bit of a French tradition and not the preserve of the yellow vests.
Please try to understand the distinction between actions and their impact.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
You will be the ones bringing things to a halt in case of illegal immigrants.
The man also doesn't seem to be aware that British Lorries will actually need permits to haul cargo in the EU, and that there are preciously few permits availabe. Without a permit hundreds of lorries will be stuck in Dover, waiting for the right paperwork, which may or may not come. But of course, pluckiness is going to solve it all.
Congratulations America
Yeah, yeah, heard it all before.
Oh, but you WILL get it all over the country. It's virtualy a given; either you are getting the disruption of a chaotic Brexit, anger about BRINO or anger about No Brexit at all. All three are reasons for 'people to stop trusting' politics.
Congratulations America
And what's the distinction in your mind between burning cars and their impact?
In other news we can unilaterally cancel the whole thing. Which would be better than May's ludicrous "deal". That dies tomorrow though.
While in Aimless's twisted imagination burning cars etc apparently has no impact ... and it is a "gross albeit hilarious exaggeration" to suggest they do have an impact ... back in the real world I inhabit the French Finance Minister has called what is going on a "catastrophe".
Back in Aimless's parallel universe it is just a mere jape.
You realize that "catastrophes" can have different sizes?
Yours will be ... bigger.
When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
Something pointing towards no re-negotiation indeed is that no preparations are made to debate Brexit in the preparations for the Council meeting later this week. It's not on the agenda of the meeting of foreign ministers tomorrow in Brussels.
Congratulations America
Why should you renegotiate when we've not rejected it yet and our PM isn't seeking either a renegotiation or an agreement to ratify it? It's absurd.
If we rejected it and a new PM went over with new demands then you can bet it would be on the agenda - either to discuss renegotiations or no deal preparations.
Can't you Brits get a functioning government already ?
Congratulations America
a what now?
The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
It seems not. This is beyond a fucking joke. It is embarrassing.
This deal is a disgrace. It is hated by almost everyone except what is left of the payroll vote. The vote tomorrow looked set to be the biggest defeat in a whipped vote (ie barring abstentions) since WWII. So she has put it off.
What is the point? She's not trying to renegotiate it. The EU are maintaining it can't be. What's going to change? Stand up and be counted instead she's just running down the clock.
So, what business does May have in The Hague tomorrow?
Congratulations America
There's a simple way to avoid a no deal Brexit. Drop the backstop and agree a deal.
May's deal in its current state won't happen.
A renegotiation of May's deal won't happen.
No deal won't happen.
A people's vote won't happen.
Article 50 won't be withdrawn.
So outcomes I see are:
1. Article 50 will be extended and then May will resign. Tory leadership contest in which Gove will win. He'll then define a new, very different looking deal.
2. A vote of no confidence in the government. General election called. Tories win. Gove becomes PM. He'll then define a new, very different looking deal.
After that: Scotland leaves the UK, and in the longer term the IRA rise from the ashes, more "troubles", and eventually NI leave the UK for a united Ireland. The "UK" form some trade deals that are and will be inferior to deals we already have/would have got being in the EU.
I hope I'm wrong about all the above (apart from article 50 being withdrawn; yes please).
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Have you copied and pasted that from elsewhere? Or have you chosen a colour to write with. Struggling to read it on white theme.
Apart from the troubles and the inferior deals I hope all of what you wrote comes to pass.
That's weird.
My words. Not sure what happened. I've now fashioned them into a lovely orange for your reading pleasure.
Orange is nice.
As is the thought of PM Gove.
Ah yes, the man who said I've "had enough of experts".
Just the kind of man I want leading the country through a rather challenging period of time.
Are you aware you're snipping out a key part of the quote?
Pray tell.
It's from the same interview where makes the argument that those who want to remain do so because they're benefited from being in the EU. We'll durr.
Full quote:
I think that the people of this country have had enough of experts from organisations with acronyms saying that they know what is best and getting it consistently wrong, because these people are the same ones who got consistently wrong.
6 June 2016, in interview with Faisal Islam.
Usually misquoted as "I think people in this country have had enough of experts" due to Islam interrupting Gove mid-sentence.
https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Michael_Gove
No way that is going to happen: without a clear perspective of a deal that is better for the EU, the article 50 period will not be extended.
Congratulations America
A no deal Brexit will harm member states too, no reason for the EU not to agree to an extension even if only to allow everyone time to mitigate the effects,
The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
That's common sense. Sadly lacking from many muppets who think this is some sort of zero sum game to play
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