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    Quote Originally Posted by Being View Post
    The Constitution doesn't mention capital punishment. It does restrict cruel and unusual punishment though. Who would you have determine what is cruel and unusual, politicians or judges?
    The original intent. Ie if we had capital punishment when that amendment was created, I'm pretty damn sure the folks who created the amendment didn't consider it curel and unusual!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    The original intent. Ie if we had capital punishment when that amendment was created, I'm pretty damn sure the folks who created the amendment didn't consider it curel and unusual!
    Well, original intent of the constitution also considers a black man as property, are we going back to that, too?

    They amended the Constitution to fix that idiocy long after the original intenders were dead. I hardly think it takes another amendment to realize that executing prisoners is cruel and unusual.
    We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlelolligagged View Post
    They amended the Constitution to fix that idiocy long after the original intenders were dead. I hardly think it takes another amendment to realize that executing prisoners is cruel and unusual.
    The Supreme Court doesn't agree with you. It is neither cruel (I fail to see how a lethal injection is any worse than spending a life in prison, with everything that entails) nor unusual (we're far from the only democracy that allows executions).
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    (I fail to see how a lethal injection is any worse than spending a life in prison, with everything that entails)
    What kind of analysis led you to this conclusion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nessus View Post
    What kind of analysis led you to this conclusion?
    How much does a person suffer from a lethal injection? How much does a person suffer from the things that happen in prison for their entire life?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    How much does a person suffer from a lethal injection? How much does a person suffer from the things that happen in prison for their entire life?
    People tend to value their life, though. Why do you think most criminals appeal their death sentence? Or why a plea bargain can get you out of a death sentence, not give you death instead of life sentence?
    Keep on keepin' the beat alive!

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    How much does a person suffer from a lethal injection?
    You seem to know, so why don't you tell me. And the audience.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    How much does a person suffer from the things that happen in prison for their entire life?
    You seem to know, so why don't you tell me. And the audience.

    (also I would appreciate if you expounded on "the things that happen", esp vis a vis the elements which cause suffering, tyia)
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    The Supreme Court doesn't agree with you.
    This topic just came up because one of the justices who made the pivotal 5/4 disagreement you're referencing said that he was wrong.
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